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From: Paul Davis <paul@linuxaudiosystems.com>
To: linux-audio-dev@music.columbia.edu
Cc: ardour-dev <ardour-dev@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	alsa-devel <alsa-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: why is no-one responding are you all just a bunch of &*^%&^%^& wits???
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 11:49:08 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E18j00T-0003MM-00@sc8-sf-list1.sourceforge.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "12 Feb 2003 09:16:54 MST." <1045066617.25120.22.camel@shippin>

>If you are interested, I am sure people would pay for binaries of
>ardour.I would. I know other musicans that would.I could get more
>musicans to. Personally, I have been waiting for it since I first heard
>about it. Why not release something? 

because i am tired of downloading open source projects that are still
so clearly under development. i am tired of the impression that this
creates. when i get hold of something like freqtweak, which i can
compile or get binaries for, and the thing just works ... that is the
right impression. the wrong impression comes from stupid bugs,
inability to cleanly exit the program (still a core problem with
ardour), and functionality that is obviously necessary and either
missing or incomplete.

				      People are waiting! Most open
>source projects release binaries throughout their development phase.
>Instead of adding cool new features for years on end, why not release
>something that musicans can use. 

that's precisely what i am trying to do. however, my definition of
"something that musicians can use" might be different from yours.

jazz++ has been around for a long time, and is available as a
binary. why isn't it widely loved and used? because it really isn't
very good. i know that i tried to use it many times, and found it,
well, frankly i found it completely awful. 

ardour still has lots of significant bugs and a few design issues that
need addressing before i want the general population judging it. to
release ready-to-run copies now, or even tarballs that would help
people who can't/won't use CVS to try to compile it ... well, all i
think it would do is to increase the number of people who have "been
there, don't want to go back" with respect to the program.

when ardour is in a state where i believe (rightly or wrongly) that a
reasonably typical target user can sit down and just use it without
encountering bugs when recording a typical 12-32 track piece, there
will be binaries.

--p


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  reply	other threads:[~2003-02-12 16:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <200302121448.h1CEm9j29428@roar.music.columbia.edu>
2003-02-12 16:16 ` [linux-audio-dev] Re: why is no-one responding are you all just a bunch of &*^%&^%^& wits??? ljp
2003-02-12 16:49   ` Paul Davis [this message]
2003-02-12 17:56     ` ljp
2003-02-13  9:44     ` Takashi Iwai
2003-02-13 12:18       ` Paul Davis

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