From: Ben Knoble <ben.knoble@gmail.com>
To: Julia Evans via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Tuomas Ahola <taahol@utu.fi>,
Julia Evans <julia@jvns.ca>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/2] doc: add new git tutorial
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2026 14:01:19 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <F2555C10-8453-4196-9D07-02870D19199D@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <pull.2248.v3.git.1792768625.gitgitgadget@gmail.com>
> Le 23 oct. 2026 à 11:17, Julia Evans via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com> a écrit :
>
> So far we've gotten 112 comments from 30ish beta testers who have tried to
> learn Git for the first using this tutorial. Most of them were able to
> finish it successfully. By far the most common piece of feedback was that
> people want to learn more about collaboration and branching. I've written a
> draft of a tutorial on branching, but this is already quite a lot of words
> so definitely we can't cover it in this series.
>
> I don't know if it's possible to get this merged quickly, but if it were I
> think it would be amazing since people are so eager for a tutorial on
> branching. If we spend a huge amount of time revising this I think there's a
> real risk I'll run out of funding before we have time to write about
> branching. Ideally I think it would be great if we could merge a "good
> enough" version and then have a way on the website for users to give
> feedback on it, so that we can later incorporate that feedback and
> iteratively make it better over time.
>
> Thanks to Paula, Agavi, Ken Wells, Michael / Chgowiz, Ishmaeel, and all 20
> or so other test readers.
>
> changes in v3: (v2 was the "first" real version since v1 was a WIP)
>
> * Say that the tutorial supports any version above 2.23.0, when git switch
> was introduced, since the next part of the tutorial on branches will use
> git switch
> * Mention that on Windows the tutorial will work best in Git Bash for and
> it might need adapting for PowerShell. (thanks to Ben)
> * Add a warning about how Git can dump you into vi, how to handle that
> situation, and how to write a longer commit message. I tried to strike a
> balance between lightly suggesting that it might be good to write longer
> commit messages, while making it clear that you can just use -m"" if
> you're not ready to navigate the world of editor configuration. I don't
> think we can use Pro Git here though since it's a bit outdated. (thanks
> to Ben)
I noticed some discussion in Discord about the main text being out of date,
but while the appendix makes copious references to editors
that have fallen out of style I think it also covers common cases
like VS Code and so on.
> * Add Helped-by: Ben ...
> * Add output of "ls ~/.ssh/*.pub" (thanks to a test reader)
> * Suggest cat ~/.ssh/whatever.pub to make it clearer how to copy the
> contents of the file. One of the test readers said this was unclear as
> well. (thanks to Junio)
> * Mention that the public key might not be called ed25519.pub (thanks to
> Junio)
> * Add a short section on the importance of git status
> * Fixed the formatting around the headings. Kept it in the same style
> because I had issues with the docs linter when using == DESCRIPTION
> (thanks to Junio)
> * explain what --set-upstream does (thanks to Ben)
> * A few other small phrasing fixes from test readers
>
> non-changes in v3:
>
> * didn't use git config set since the tutorial claims to be compatible with
> Git 2.23.0
> * kept using the term "folders" since my impression is that Mac OS and
> Windows use the term "folder" and those operating systems are more
> popular than Linux. I don't think any test readers were confused by this
> term, though "directories" might be fine too.
> * leave git init instead of git init myproject so that folks can use the
> same process when setting up Git in an existing project
>
> Julia Evans (2):
> doc: remove gittutorial
> doc: add new Git tutorial for beginners
>
> Documentation/gittutorial.adoc | 1035 ++++++++++++++++++--------------
> 1 file changed, 573 insertions(+), 462 deletions(-)
>
>
> base-commit: 47fdf2208c5b94c8cc01c106b8f7c85efb91c926
> Published-As: https://github.com/gitgitgadget/git/releases/tag/pr-2248%2Fjvns%2Fgit-tutorial-v3
> Fetch-It-Via: git fetch https://github.com/gitgitgadget/git pr-2248/jvns/git-tutorial-v3
> Pull-Request: https://github.com/gitgitgadget/git/pull/2248
The range-diff below looks fine to me! A few small nits, but I don’t
want to hold things up.
> Range-diff vs v2:
>
> 1: 42035aa84a = 1: 8c0366e996 doc: remove gittutorial
> 2: 6532e60e30 ! 2: d8ea142af6 doc: add new Git tutorial for beginners
> @@ Commit message
>
> Some design choices:
>
> + - Only use commands present in 2.23.0 (when `git switch` as introduced),
> + to support older versions of Git.
> - Introduce a much smaller set of commands than the old tutorial, to
> keep the tutorial quick (doable in an hour). Some users found it to be
> very fast and some wanted to stop early (after step 7) so this seems
> @@ Commit message
> policy if applicable since the "easiest way" may not be the best), and
> giving some instructions for how to translate an HTTPS URL to an SSH
> URL.
> + - Warn people about how `vi` is the default text editor and give some
> + instructions for how to escape
>
> At least 20 people have successfully completed it, and feedback was
> incorporated from problems the testers ran into.
>
> + Helped-by: D. Ben Knoble <ben.knoble@gmail.com>
> Co-authored-by: Marie Claire LeBlanc Flanagan <hello@marieflanagan.com>
> Signed-off-by: Marie Claire LeBlanc Flanagan <hello@marieflanagan.com>
> Signed-off-by: Julia Evans <julia@jvns.ca>
> @@ Documentation/gittutorial.adoc (new)
> +1. Git to be installed. You might already have it installed,
> + and if not there are directions at https://git-scm.com/install/
> +2. A terminal to use. On Windows, you can use Git Bash which comes
> -+ when you install Git.
> ++ when you install Git. For Windows this tutorial will assume you're
> ++ using Git Bash and if not you might need to adjust some commands like
> ++ `ls` and `cat`.
> +
> +You can check if Git is installed by running this in your terminal:
> +
> @@ Documentation/gittutorial.adoc (new)
> +------------------------------------------------
> +
> +The exact version isn't too important: this tutorial is designed to work
> -+with any version of Git after 2.0.
> ++with any version of Git after 2.23.0.
> +
> +[[step_2]]
> +Step 2: Introduce yourself to Git
> @@ Documentation/gittutorial.adoc (new)
> +but we're not covering that here.
> +
> +Step 3: Create an empty folder and 1 file
> -+------------------------------------------
> ++-----------------------------------------
> +
> -+In your terminal, create an empty folder and change directories into it.
> ++In your terminal, create an empty folder and move into it.
> +Later on you could follow the same steps in this tutorial to take an
> +existing project and start managing it with Git, but we're going to use
> +an empty project so that everyone following this tutorial has the exact
> +same files.
> +
> -+For example, run these commands to make a folder called `myproject`
> ++For example, run these commands to make a folder called `myproject`:
> +
> +------------------------------------------------
> +$ mkdir myproject
> @@ Documentation/gittutorial.adoc (new)
> +
> +You've now stored the first version of your project in Git!
> +
> ++`git status` is very important
> ++------------------------------
> ++
> ++`git status` shows you the current state of your Git repository.
> ++It can give a huge amount of different information that takes
> ++practice to interpret, so this tutorial has several examples of
> ++how to interpret the output of `git status` in different situations.
> ++
> ++It's often useful to run `git status` before and after running a Git
> ++command to see how it changed things.
> ++
> +Step 6: Make a change
> +---------------------
> +
> @@ -1,2 +1,2 @@
> +$ git add example.txt
> +----------
> +
> -+Then you can run `git commit` to commit it.
> ++Then you can run `git commit` to commit it (though see the warning in
> ++the next section!).
> ++
> ++Warning about terminal text editors
> ++-----------------------------------
> ++
> ++If you run `git commit` without any arguments, Git will open a
> ++text editor in the terminal for you to use to edit your commit message.
> ++This lets you write a longer commit message with more details.
> ++By default, Git uses the `vi` text editor, which is extremely difficult
Personally, I’d drop « extremely » here to avoid casting a judgement?
> ++to use if you're not used to it.
> ++
> ++Some signs that you're trapped in `vi`: suddenly typing doesn't work
> ++anymore, and there are tilde `~` characters on the left of the screen.
Perhaps « bottom-left »; they aren’t in the rows with text,
for example.
> ++
> ++If Git opens `vi` and you'd rather use a different editor, you can
> ++handle it like this:
> ++
> ++1. Quit by typing `Escape`, then `:q!` and then `Enter`
I never know if I’m over-indexing on this, but: perhaps
« press the Escape key, type …, and press Enter »? One probably
does not want to type the word Escape ;)
Ideally we’d recommend :cquit!, too, to exit with an error
in case the user accidentally edited the buffer and managed to write it,
in which case they may create a commit and the recovery may be confusing.
But POSIX doesn’t require that of vi/ex even though most distros
ship Vim as the implementation. So :q! will have to do.
> ++2. Run `git config --global core.editor YOUR_PREFERRED_EDITOR`
This is probably ok for now. Long term I encourage folks to set
EDITOR and/or VISUAL environment variables, so all
programs know what to do, but shell configuration is way
off-topic here :)
> ++ to configure which editor to use. For example, `nano` is available
> ++ on a lot of systems and has basic instructions on the screen for how
> ++ to use it.
> ++3. Run `git commit` again
> ++
> ++If you don't want to set up a text editor yet, you can also just use
> ++`git commit -m"your message"` like we did earlier in this tutorial.
> +
> +Step 8: Make a change and throw it away
> +---------------------------------------
> @@ -1,2 +1,2 @@
> +This "working tree clean" message means that there haven't been any
> +changes since your last commit.
> +
> -+Now make a change to your code, and run `git status` again. Like last
> ++Now make a change to `README.md`, and run `git status` again. Like last
> +time, you should see a message like this:
> +
> +------------------------------------------------
> @@ -1,2 +1,2 @@
> +source Git forge software to your server.
> +
> +Step 10: Create an SSH key (if needed)
> -+-------------------------------------
> ++--------------------------------------
> +
> +For Git to upload changes to another Git repository, it needs a way to
> +login to that repository. One of the most popular ways to do this is
> @@ -1,2 +1,2 @@
> +$ ls ~/.ssh/*.pub
> +-------------------------------------------
> +
> -+That will output something like
> ++That will output something like this. The exact filename depends on the type
> ++of key. The important thing is that you're looking for a filename that
> ++ends in `.pub` ("pub" stands for "public"):
> +
> +-------------------------------------------
> +/home/alice/.ssh/id_ed25519.pub
> +-------------------------------------------
> +
> -+Copy the contents of that file to your clipboard. It's important that
> -+the filename ends in `.pub` ("pub" stands for "public").
> ++Copy the contents of that file to your clipboard. One way to do that is
> ++to run this command (replacing the filename with the right filename),
> ++and then copy the output.
> ++
> ++-------------------------------------------
> ++cat /home/alice/.ssh/id_ed25519.pub
> ++-------------------------------------------
> +
> +Then login to your account on the Git host you chose and paste the SSH
> +key into the appropriate place. Depending on the Git host, it's likely
> @@ -1,2 +1,2 @@
> +-------------------------------------------
> +
> +[[step_14]]
> -+Step 14: push your changes
> ++Step 14: Push your changes
> +--------------------------
> +
> +Finally, we're ready to send the information in your local Git repository
> @@ -1,2 +1,2 @@
> +You should be able to fix this by redoing <<step_12,Step 12>>.
> +Then <<step_14,Step 14>> should work.
> +
> -+MORE USEFUL GIT COMMANDS
> ++More useful Git commands
> +------------------------
> +
> +We're not going to cover collaboration at all in this tutorial, but here are a
> @@ -1,2 +1,2 @@
> + If you see a commit with `git log` that you want more details about,
> + you can run `git show COMMIT_ID` to see what changes that made since
> + the previous commit (linkgit:git-show[1])
> -+
> -+SEE ALSO
> -+--------
> -+linkgit:git-help[1],
> ++* To get a list of common Git commands, run `git help` (linkgit:git-help[1])
> +
> +GIT
> +---
>
> --
> gitgitgadget
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Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-10-06 19:37 [PATCH 0/2] WIP: doc: add new git tutorial Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2026-10-06 19:37 ` [PATCH 1/2] doc: remove gittutorial Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2026-10-06 19:37 ` [PATCH 2/2] doc: add new Git tutorial for beginners Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2026-10-07 19:48 ` D. Ben Knoble
2026-10-19 14:24 ` Julia Evans
2026-10-19 16:49 ` Ben Knoble
2026-10-19 20:42 ` Julia Evans
2026-10-19 21:14 ` D. Ben Knoble
2026-10-20 17:11 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-10-20 17:59 ` Julia Evans
2026-10-20 18:26 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-10-20 18:27 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-10-20 18:45 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-10-20 19:13 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-10-21 17:16 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-10-21 21:24 ` Julia Evans
2026-10-20 18:22 ` Julia Evans
2026-10-20 18:30 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-10-07 19:26 ` [PATCH 0/2] WIP: doc: add new git tutorial D. Ben Knoble
2026-10-19 14:55 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] " Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2026-10-19 14:55 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] doc: remove gittutorial Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2026-10-19 14:55 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] doc: add new Git tutorial for beginners Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2026-10-20 1:24 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] doc: add new git tutorial Junio C Hamano
2026-10-20 2:24 ` Ben Knoble
2026-10-20 12:18 ` Julia Evans
2026-10-20 18:50 ` Tuomas Ahola
2026-10-20 19:13 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-10-23 15:17 ` [PATCH v3 " Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2026-10-23 15:17 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] doc: remove gittutorial Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2026-10-23 15:17 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] doc: add new Git tutorial for beginners Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2026-10-23 18:01 ` Ben Knoble [this message]
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