From: "Jean Delvare" <khali@linux-fr.org>
To: vonbrand@inf.utfsm.cl
Cc: "Andrew Morton" <akpm@osdl.org>, "Adrian Bunk" <bunk@stusta.de>,
"LKML" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Do not misuse Coverity please
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 09:53:03 +0200 (CEST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <OofSaT76.1112169183.7124470.khali@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200503300125.j2U1PFQ9005082@laptop11.inf.utfsm.cl>
Hi Horst,
> > > No, there is a third case: the pointer can be NULL, but the compiler
> > > happened to move the dereference down to after the check.
>
> > Wow. Great point. I completely missed that possibility. In fact I didn't
> > know that the compiler could possibly alter the order of the
> > instructions. For one thing, I thought it was simply not allowed to. For
> > another, I didn't know that it had been made so aware that it could
> > actually figure out how to do this kind of things. What a mess. Let's
> > just hope that the gcc folks know their business :)
>
> The compiler is most definitely /not/ allowed to change the results the
> code gives.
I think that Andrew's point was that the compiler could change the order
of the instructions *when this doesn't change the result*, not just in
the general case, of course. In our example, The instructions:
v = p->field;
if (!p) return;
can be seen as equivalent to
if (!p) return;
v = p->field;
by the compiler, which might actually optimize the first into the second
(and quite rightly so, as it actually is faster in the null case). The
fact that doing so prevents an oops is unknown to the compiler, so it
just wouldn't care.
Now I don't know what gcc actually does or not, but Andrew's point
makes perfect sense to me in the theory, and effectively voids my own
argument if gcc performs this kind of optimizations. (The prefered
approach to fix these bugs is a different issue though.)
--
Jean Delvare
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-03-30 8:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-03-27 20:50 [2.6 patch] sound/oss/cs46xx.c: fix a check after use Adrian Bunk
2005-03-27 21:21 ` Do not misuse Coverity please (Was: sound/oss/cs46xx.c: fix a check after use) Jean Delvare
2005-03-27 21:43 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-03-27 22:34 ` Jean Delvare
2005-03-27 22:45 ` Russell King
2005-03-28 12:54 ` Matthias-Christian Ott
2005-03-28 23:57 ` L. A. Walsh
2005-03-29 6:05 ` Daniel Barkalow
2005-03-29 6:23 ` Andrew Morton
2005-03-29 10:46 ` Jean Delvare
2005-03-29 14:12 ` Chris Friesen
2005-03-30 1:25 ` Horst von Brand
2005-03-30 7:53 ` Jean Delvare [this message]
2005-03-30 17:09 ` Do not misuse Coverity please Horst von Brand
2005-04-11 20:23 ` Pavel Machek
2005-03-30 18:29 ` Shankar Unni
2005-03-30 18:55 ` Olivier Galibert
2005-03-31 2:01 ` Patrick McFarland
2005-03-30 19:14 ` Paulo Marques
2005-03-30 23:11 ` Big GCC bug!!! [Was: Re: Do not misuse Coverity please] Kyle Moffett
2005-03-30 23:38 ` Not a GCC bug (was Re: Big GCC bug!!! [Was: Re: Do not misuse Coverity please]) Jakub Jelinek
2005-03-31 0:58 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-03-31 1:12 ` Nick Piggin
2005-03-31 1:27 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-03-29 14:22 ` Do not misuse Coverity please (Was: sound/oss/cs46xx.c: fix a check after use) Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-03-29 22:37 ` Kyle Moffett
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