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From: Shengyu Qu <wiagn233@outlook.com>
To: "Michel Dänzer" <michel.daenzer@mailbox.org>,
	"Alex Hung" <alex.hung@amd.com>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org
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Subject: Re: [PATCH V8 24/43] drm/amd/display: Skip color pipeline initialization for cursor plane
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2025 23:45:50 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <TYCPR01MB84373F182FECD129EEB3FF3898AC2@TYCPR01MB8437.jpnprd01.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fd0440ba-1a34-4cad-9e89-701dec7673b4@mailbox.org>


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在 2025/4/1 22:11, Michel Dänzer 写道:
> On 2025-04-01 14:32, Shengyu Qu wrote:
>> 在 2025/4/1 17:56, Michel Dänzer 写道:
>>> On 2025-03-31 19:42, Alex Hung wrote:
>>>> On 3/31/25 11:04, Shengyu Qu wrote:
>>>>> Or we can add some kind of "linked with" info to plane's COLOR_PIPELINE property, to let userspace know that cursor plane and background plane share the same colorop config. So that userspace could do extra conversion on cursor image data to avoid display wrong cursor color.
>>>>
>>>> That's over-complicate and makes little sense for both device drivers and userspace applications.
>>>>
>>>> If any planes share same colorop config, a device driver exposes the same color pipeline with the same colorops.
>>>>
>>>> If a plane does not support color pipeline or a driver doesn't want to support it, there is no color pipeline and no color objects.
>>>
>>> I suspect using the cursor plane is generally higher priority for Wayland compositors than using overlay planes, because the former is critical for a responsive user experience.
>>>
>>> This requires that the amdgpu DC driver backs the cursor plane with a dedicated HW plane though (as it's already doing in some cases), to either fully support color pipelines for the cursor plane, or at least provide proper "no color pipeline" behaviour for it. Letting the effective behaviour be determined by the other planes which happen to be behind the cursor plane isn't usable for Wayland compositors.
>> Current behavior is just disable colorop for both background plane and cursor plane.
> 
> Are you saying the color pipeline is implicitly disabled for any KMS planes which happen to be overlapped by the cursor plane?
According to this mail, I think so(unless I mistook about the meaning 
again):
https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/amd-gfx/2025-April/122257.html

> 
> That sounds like a no go.
> 
> 
>> I'm not sure how much planes does the hardware support, but if there are too less planes to use, maybe we still need to make use of the cursor background plane in the compositor.
> 
> If the HW has too few planes to allow both the cursor & overlay planes to work correctly (regardless of their dimensions), the driver should not allow enabling both kinds of planes at the same time.
> 
> 


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  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-02  7:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 128+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-26 23:46 [PATCH V8 00/43] Color Pipeline API w/ VKMS Alex Hung
2025-03-26 23:46 ` [PATCH V8 01/43] drm: Add helper for conversion from signed-magnitude Alex Hung
2025-03-26 23:46 ` [PATCH V8 02/43] drm/vkms: Add kunit tests for VKMS LUT handling Alex Hung
2025-03-26 23:46 ` [PATCH V8 03/43] drm/doc/rfc: Describe why prescriptive color pipeline is needed Alex Hung
2025-03-29 15:26   ` Simon Ser
2025-04-01  0:10     ` Alex Hung
2025-04-01  7:26       ` Simon Ser
2025-03-31 16:24   ` Shengyu Qu
2025-03-31 16:41     ` Alex Hung
2025-03-31 16:54       ` Shengyu Qu
2025-03-26 23:46 ` [PATCH V8 04/43] drm/colorop: Introduce new drm_colorop mode object Alex Hung
2025-03-26 23:46 ` [PATCH V8 05/43] drm/colorop: Add TYPE property Alex Hung
2025-03-26 23:46 ` [PATCH V8 06/43] drm/colorop: Add 1D Curve subtype Alex Hung
2025-04-01 15:14   ` Daniel Stone
2025-04-01 19:53     ` Simon Ser
2025-04-01 21:02       ` Harry Wentland
2025-04-08 16:40       ` Daniel Stone
2025-04-08 17:30         ` Harry Wentland
2025-04-08 18:28           ` Daniel Stone
2025-04-10  7:53           ` Pipeline vs. no pipeline (Re: [PATCH V8 06/43] drm/colorop: Add 1D Curve subtype) Pekka Paalanen
2025-04-15 15:29             ` Harry Wentland
2025-04-16 14:39               ` Xaver Hugl
2025-04-17  8:28               ` Pekka Paalanen
2025-04-10 10:05         ` [PATCH V8 06/43] drm/colorop: Add 1D Curve subtype Simon Ser
2025-04-15 11:12         ` Borah, Chaitanya Kumar
2025-04-17 15:13           ` Simon Ser
2025-03-26 23:46 ` [PATCH V8 07/43] drm/colorop: Add BYPASS property Alex Hung
2025-03-26 23:46 ` [PATCH V8 08/43] drm/colorop: Add NEXT property Alex Hung
2025-03-27 23:26   ` Simon Ser
2025-03-26 23:46 ` [PATCH V8 09/43] drm/colorop: Add atomic state print for drm_colorop Alex Hung
2025-03-27 23:29   ` Simon Ser
2025-03-26 23:46 ` [PATCH V8 10/43] drm/plane: Add COLOR PIPELINE property Alex Hung
2025-03-29 14:33   ` Simon Ser
2025-03-26 23:46 ` [PATCH V8 11/43] drm/colorop: Introduce DRM_CLIENT_CAP_PLANE_COLOR_PIPELINE Alex Hung
2025-03-29 14:37   ` Simon Ser
2025-04-01  1:42   ` Shengyu Qu
2025-03-26 23:46 ` [PATCH V8 12/43] Documentation/gpu: document drm_colorop Alex Hung
2025-03-29 14:40   ` Simon Ser
2025-03-26 23:46 ` [PATCH V8 13/43] drm/vkms: Add enumerated 1D curve colorop Alex Hung
2025-03-26 23:46 ` [PATCH V8 14/43] drm/vkms: Add kunit tests for linear and sRGB LUTs Alex Hung
2025-03-26 23:46 ` [PATCH V8 15/43] drm/colorop: Add 3x4 CTM type Alex Hung
2025-03-26 23:46 ` [PATCH V8 16/43] drm/vkms: Use s32 for internal color pipeline precision Alex Hung
2025-03-26 23:46 ` [PATCH V8 17/43] drm/vkms: add 3x4 matrix in color pipeline Alex Hung
2025-03-26 23:46 ` [PATCH V8 18/43] drm/tests: Add a few tests around drm_fixed.h Alex Hung
2025-03-26 23:47 ` [PATCH V8 19/43] drm/vkms: Add tests for CTM handling Alex Hung
2025-03-26 23:47 ` [PATCH V8 20/43] drm/colorop: pass plane_color_pipeline client cap to atomic check Alex Hung
2025-03-29 15:32   ` Simon Ser
2025-03-26 23:47 ` [PATCH V8 21/43] drm/colorop: define a new macro for_each_new_colorop_in_state Alex Hung
2025-03-26 23:47 ` [PATCH V8 22/43] drm/amd/display: Ignore deprecated props when plane_color_pipeline set Alex Hung
2025-03-26 23:47 ` [PATCH V8 23/43] drm/amd/display: Add bypass COLOR PIPELINE Alex Hung
2025-03-26 23:47 ` [PATCH V8 24/43] drm/amd/display: Skip color pipeline initialization for cursor plane Alex Hung
2025-03-30  9:48   ` Shengyu Qu
2025-03-30 12:59   ` Shengyu Qu
2025-03-31 14:28     ` Alex Hung
2025-03-31 15:43       ` Shengyu Qu
2025-03-31 16:06         ` Alex Hung
2025-03-31 16:12           ` Shengyu Qu
2025-03-31 16:26             ` Alex Hung
2025-03-31 16:31               ` Shengyu Qu
2025-03-31 16:34                 ` Alex Hung
2025-03-31 16:50                   ` Shengyu Qu
2025-03-31 17:04                     ` Shengyu Qu
2025-03-31 17:42                       ` Alex Hung
2025-03-31 18:53                         ` Xaver Hugl
2025-04-01  0:28                           ` Alex Hung
2025-04-01 15:04                             ` Xaver Hugl
2025-04-01 15:45                           ` Melissa Wen
2025-04-01 19:39                             ` Harry Wentland
2025-04-01  1:04                         ` Shengyu Qu
2025-04-01  1:24                           ` Alex Hung
2025-04-01  9:56                         ` Michel Dänzer
2025-04-01 12:32                           ` Shengyu Qu
2025-04-01 14:11                             ` Michel Dänzer
2025-04-01 15:45                               ` Shengyu Qu [this message]
2025-04-01 19:45                                 ` Harry Wentland
2025-04-02  3:47                                   ` Qu Shengyu
2025-04-01 16:24                               ` Shengyu Qu
2025-03-26 23:47 ` [PATCH V8 25/43] drm/amd/display: Add support for sRGB EOTF in DEGAM block Alex Hung
2025-03-26 23:47 ` [PATCH V8 26/43] drm/amd/display: Add support for sRGB Inverse EOTF in SHAPER block Alex Hung
2025-03-26 23:47 ` [PATCH V8 27/43] drm/amd/display: Add support for sRGB EOTF in BLND block Alex Hung
2025-03-26 23:47 ` [PATCH V8 28/43] drm/colorop: Add PQ 125 EOTF and its inverse Alex Hung
2025-03-29 14:48   ` Simon Ser
2025-03-26 23:47 ` [PATCH V8 29/43] drm/amd/display: Enable support for PQ 125 EOTF and Inverse Alex Hung
2025-03-26 23:47 ` [PATCH V8 30/43] drm/colorop: add BT2020/BT709 OETF and Inverse OETF Alex Hung
2025-03-29 14:53   ` Simon Ser
2025-03-26 23:47 ` [PATCH V8 31/43] drm/amd/display: Add support for BT.709 and BT.2020 TFs Alex Hung
2025-03-26 23:47 ` [PATCH V8 32/43] drm/colorop: Add 1D Curve Custom LUT type Alex Hung
2025-03-29 14:55   ` Simon Ser
2025-04-15  6:09   ` Shankar, Uma
2025-04-15  6:16     ` Simon Ser
2025-04-15  6:40       ` Shankar, Uma
2025-04-15 15:05         ` Harry Wentland
2025-04-15 16:25           ` Simon Ser
2025-05-22 11:33             ` Shankar, Uma
2025-05-30 13:58               ` Pekka Paalanen
2025-06-03  8:30                 ` Shankar, Uma
2025-06-03 10:51                   ` Pekka Paalanen
2025-06-03 20:26                     ` Harry Wentland
2025-06-04 18:59                       ` Shankar, Uma
2025-06-05  7:30                         ` Pekka Paalanen
2025-03-26 23:47 ` [PATCH V8 33/43] drm/amd/display: add shaper and blend colorops for 1D Curve Custom LUT Alex Hung
2025-03-26 23:47 ` [PATCH V8 34/43] drm/amd/display: add 3x4 matrix colorop Alex Hung
2025-03-26 23:47 ` [PATCH V8 35/43] drm/colorop: Add mutliplier type Alex Hung
2025-03-26 23:47 ` [PATCH V8 36/43] drm/amd/display: add multiplier colorop Alex Hung
2025-03-26 23:47 ` [PATCH V8 37/43] drm/amd/display: Swap matrix and multiplier Alex Hung
2025-03-26 23:47 ` [PATCH V8 38/43] drm/colorop: Define LUT_1D interpolation Alex Hung
2025-03-26 23:47 ` [PATCH V8 39/43] drm/colorop: allow non-bypass colorops Alex Hung
2025-03-29 15:41   ` Simon Ser
2025-03-26 23:47 ` [PATCH V8 40/43] drm/colorop: Add 3D LUT support to color pipeline Alex Hung
2025-03-29 14:57   ` Simon Ser
2025-04-25 13:50   ` Leandro Ribeiro
2025-05-13  3:39     ` Alex Hung
2025-05-17  1:22   ` Xaver Hugl
2025-05-17 11:53     ` Simon Ser
2025-05-17 22:32       ` Xaver Hugl
2025-05-19 23:43         ` Simon Ser
2025-05-20 20:13           ` Harry Wentland
2025-05-21 19:18             ` Harry Wentland
2025-05-22 10:14               ` Simon Ser
2025-05-22 11:46                 ` Shankar, Uma
2025-05-17 17:36     ` Autumn Ashton
2025-03-26 23:47 ` [PATCH V8 41/43] drm/amd/display: add 3D LUT colorop Alex Hung
2025-03-26 23:47 ` [PATCH V8 42/43] drm/amd/display: Add AMD color pipeline doc Alex Hung
2025-03-26 23:47 ` [PATCH V8 43/43] drm/colorop: Add destroy functions for color pipeline Alex Hung
2025-03-29 15:48   ` Simon Ser
2025-04-01  2:42     ` Alex Hung
2025-04-10 16:18       ` Simon Ser
2025-03-29 15:51 ` [PATCH V8 00/43] Color Pipeline API w/ VKMS Simon Ser

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