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From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>
Cc: armbru@redhat.com, Michael Roth <michael.roth@amd.com>,
	Pierre Morel <pmorel@linux.ibm.com>,
	qemu-s390x@nongnu.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	borntraeger@de.ibm.com, pasic@linux.ibm.com,
	richard.henderson@linaro.org, david@redhat.com,
	cohuck@redhat.com, mst@redhat.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, ehabkost@redhat.com,
	marcel.apfelbaum@gmail.com, eblake@redhat.com,
	seiden@linux.ibm.com, nrb@linux.ibm.com, nsg@linux.ibm.com,
	frankja@linux.ibm.com, clg@kaod.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v15 09/11] machine: adding s390 topology to query-cpu-fast
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2023 14:50:45 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y+ETxSadUGC/UJGY@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e1828071-551a-b5cb-8da5-cea91f075548@redhat.com>

On Mon, Feb 06, 2023 at 02:09:57PM +0100, Thomas Huth wrote:
> On 06/02/2023 13.49, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 06, 2023 at 01:41:44PM +0100, Thomas Huth wrote:
> > > On 01/02/2023 14.20, Pierre Morel wrote:
> > > > S390x provides two more topology containers above the sockets,
> > > > books and drawers.
> > > > 
> > > > Let's add these CPU attributes to the QAPI command query-cpu-fast.
> > > > 
> > > > Signed-off-by: Pierre Morel <pmorel@linux.ibm.com>
> > > > ---
> > > >    qapi/machine.json          | 13 ++++++++++---
> > > >    hw/core/machine-qmp-cmds.c |  2 ++
> > > >    2 files changed, 12 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> > > > 
> > > > diff --git a/qapi/machine.json b/qapi/machine.json
> > > > index 3036117059..e36c39e258 100644
> > > > --- a/qapi/machine.json
> > > > +++ b/qapi/machine.json
> > > > @@ -53,11 +53,18 @@
> > > >    #
> > > >    # Additional information about a virtual S390 CPU
> > > >    #
> > > > -# @cpu-state: the virtual CPU's state
> > > > +# @cpu-state: the virtual CPU's state (since 2.12)
> > > > +# @dedicated: the virtual CPU's dedication (since 8.0)
> > > > +# @polarity: the virtual CPU's polarity (since 8.0)
> > > >    #
> > > >    # Since: 2.12
> > > >    ##
> > > > -{ 'struct': 'CpuInfoS390', 'data': { 'cpu-state': 'CpuS390State' } }
> > > > +{ 'struct': 'CpuInfoS390',
> > > > +    'data': { 'cpu-state': 'CpuS390State',
> > > > +              'dedicated': 'bool',
> > > > +              'polarity': 'int'
> > > 
> > > I think it would also be better to mark the new fields as optional and only
> > > return them if the guest has the topology enabled, to avoid confusing
> > > clients that were written before this change.
> > 
> > FWIW, I would say that the general expectation of QMP clients is that
> > they must *always* expect new fields to appear in dicts that are
> > returned in QMP replies. We add new fields at will on a frequent basis.
> 
> Did we change our policy here? I slightly remember I've been told
> differently in the past ... but I can't recall where this was, it's
> certainly been a while.
> 
> So a question to the QAPI maintainers: What's the preferred handling for new
> fields nowadays in such situations?

I think you're mixing it up with policy for adding new fields to *input*
parameters. You can't add a new mandatory field to input params of a
command because no existing client will be sending that. Only optional
params are viable, without a deprecation cycle. For output parameters
such as this case, there's no compatibilty problem.

With regards,
Daniel
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  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-06 14:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-01 13:20 [PATCH v15 00/11] s390x: CPU Topology Pierre Morel
2023-02-01 13:20 ` [PATCH v15 01/11] s390x/cpu topology: adding s390 specificities to CPU topology Pierre Morel
2023-02-02 10:44   ` Thomas Huth
2023-02-02 13:15     ` Pierre Morel
2023-02-02 16:05   ` Nina Schoetterl-Glausch
2023-02-03  9:39     ` Pierre Morel
2023-02-03 11:21       ` Thomas Huth
2023-02-08 17:50   ` Nina Schoetterl-Glausch
2023-02-10 14:19     ` Pierre Morel
2023-02-01 13:20 ` [PATCH v15 02/11] s390x/cpu topology: add topology entries on CPU hotplug Pierre Morel
2023-02-02 16:42   ` Nina Schoetterl-Glausch
2023-02-03  9:21     ` Pierre Morel
2023-02-03 13:22       ` Nina Schoetterl-Glausch
2023-02-03 14:40         ` Pierre Morel
2023-02-03 15:38           ` Nina Schoetterl-Glausch
2023-02-01 13:20 ` [PATCH v15 03/11] target/s390x/cpu topology: handle STSI(15) and build the SYSIB Pierre Morel
2023-02-03 17:36   ` Nina Schoetterl-Glausch
2023-02-06 10:06     ` Pierre Morel
2023-02-06 10:32       ` Nina Schoetterl-Glausch
2023-02-06 11:24   ` Thomas Huth
2023-02-06 12:57     ` Pierre Morel
2023-02-09 16:39   ` Nina Schoetterl-Glausch
2023-02-10 14:16     ` Pierre Morel
2023-02-01 13:20 ` [PATCH v15 04/11] s390x/sclp: reporting the maximum nested topology entries Pierre Morel
2023-02-06 10:13   ` Thomas Huth
2023-02-06 10:19     ` Pierre Morel
2023-02-01 13:20 ` [PATCH v15 05/11] s390x/cpu topology: resetting the Topology-Change-Report Pierre Morel
2023-02-06 11:05   ` Thomas Huth
2023-02-06 12:50     ` Pierre Morel
2023-02-06 17:52   ` Nina Schoetterl-Glausch
2023-02-07  9:24     ` Pierre Morel
2023-02-07 10:50       ` Nina Schoetterl-Glausch
2023-02-07 12:19         ` Pierre Morel
2023-02-07 13:37           ` Nina Schoetterl-Glausch
2023-02-07 14:08             ` Pierre Morel
2023-02-01 13:20 ` [PATCH v15 06/11] s390x/cpu topology: interception of PTF instruction Pierre Morel
2023-02-06 11:38   ` Thomas Huth
2023-02-06 13:02     ` Pierre Morel
2023-02-06 18:34   ` Nina Schoetterl-Glausch
2023-02-07  9:59     ` Pierre Morel
2023-02-07 11:27       ` Nina Schoetterl-Glausch
2023-02-07 13:03         ` Pierre Morel
2023-02-01 13:20 ` [PATCH v15 07/11] target/s390x/cpu topology: activating CPU topology Pierre Morel
2023-02-06 11:57   ` Thomas Huth
2023-02-06 13:19     ` Pierre Morel
2023-02-01 13:20 ` [PATCH v15 08/11] qapi/s390x/cpu topology: x-set-cpu-topology monitor command Pierre Morel
2023-02-06 12:21   ` Thomas Huth
2023-02-06 14:03     ` Pierre Morel
2023-02-07 14:59   ` Pierre Morel
2023-02-08 18:40   ` Nina Schoetterl-Glausch
2023-02-09 13:14     ` Pierre Morel
2023-02-01 13:20 ` [PATCH v15 09/11] machine: adding s390 topology to query-cpu-fast Pierre Morel
2023-02-06 12:38   ` Thomas Huth
2023-02-06 14:12     ` Pierre Morel
2023-02-06 12:41   ` Thomas Huth
2023-02-06 12:49     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-02-06 13:09       ` Thomas Huth
2023-02-06 14:50         ` Daniel P. Berrangé [this message]
2023-02-07 10:10           ` Thomas Huth
2023-02-06 14:16       ` Pierre Morel
2023-02-07 18:26   ` Nina Schoetterl-Glausch
2023-02-08  9:11     ` Pierre Morel
2023-02-01 13:20 ` [PATCH v15 10/11] qapi/s390x/cpu topology: CPU_POLARITY_CHANGE qapi event Pierre Morel
2023-02-08 17:35   ` Nina Schoetterl-Glausch
2023-02-08 19:23     ` Markus Armbruster
2023-02-09 12:28       ` Nina Schoetterl-Glausch
2023-02-09 13:00         ` Pierre Morel
2023-02-09 14:50           ` Nina Schoetterl-Glausch
2023-02-09 10:04     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-02-09 11:01       ` Markus Armbruster
2023-02-09 12:12       ` Nina Schoetterl-Glausch
2023-02-09 12:15         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-02-01 13:20 ` [PATCH v15 11/11] docs/s390x/cpu topology: document s390x cpu topology Pierre Morel
2023-02-08 16:22   ` Nina Schoetterl-Glausch
2023-02-09 17:14 ` [PATCH v15 00/11] s390x: CPU Topology Nina Schoetterl-Glausch
2023-02-10 13:23   ` Pierre Morel

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