From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B4445C636D4 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2023 18:04:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pQBGq-0002v9-M8; Thu, 09 Feb 2023 13:03:44 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pQBGp-0002tt-3e for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 09 Feb 2023 13:03:43 -0500 Received: from us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com ([170.10.129.124]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pQBGm-0002vi-Jy for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 09 Feb 2023 13:03:42 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=redhat.com; s=mimecast20190719; t=1675965818; h=from:from:reply-to:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=cHNZPrhZogaxuhmMWoFu4aV4fXVM9gQOxV8GXwQIm48=; b=Q239VuyuU5S3BhrZpE2vRRe/3wB/Fvk4NPV2ZFVy2YUjj2t4gozYMOGVwLNqPKNyuW6CIT rOBGbkrl3xltdeTsVTNu/NSpnxVyxGuAAdW3t9K/Piyod9VI7k2Z5Vj9x1ELjXmxmUu0RZ HNGpATA4VasMqj3JLK1DVb5Xf49ICag= Received: from mimecast-mx02.redhat.com (mx3-rdu2.redhat.com [66.187.233.73]) by relay.mimecast.com with ESMTP with STARTTLS (version=TLSv1.2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id us-mta-657-733JvFqkNCm8SV8y5IVdVA-1; Thu, 09 Feb 2023 13:03:35 -0500 X-MC-Unique: 733JvFqkNCm8SV8y5IVdVA-1 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx08.intmail.prod.int.rdu2.redhat.com [10.11.54.8]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mimecast-mx02.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1A1BE1C08970; Thu, 9 Feb 2023 18:03:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from redhat.com (unknown [10.33.36.65]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9738EC158BB; Thu, 9 Feb 2023 18:03:31 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2023 18:03:28 +0000 From: Daniel =?utf-8?B?UC4gQmVycmFuZ8Op?= To: John Snow Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Hanna Reitz , Kevin Wolf , Peter Maydell , Thomas Huth , qemu-block@nongnu.org, Wainer dos Santos Moschetta , Philippe =?utf-8?Q?Mathieu-Daud=C3=A9?= , Markus Armbruster , Paolo Bonzini , Michael Roth , Cleber Rosa , Beraldo Leal , Alex =?utf-8?Q?Benn=C3=A9e?= Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/7] Python: Drop support for Python 3.6 Message-ID: References: <20230209154034.983044-1-jsnow@redhat.com> <20230209154034.983044-8-jsnow@redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/2.2.9 (2022-11-12) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 3.1 on 10.11.54.8 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=170.10.129.124; envelope-from=berrange@redhat.com; helo=us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: qemu-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Daniel =?utf-8?B?UC4gQmVycmFuZ8Op?= Errors-To: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Sender: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org On Thu, Feb 09, 2023 at 11:40:57AM -0500, John Snow wrote: > On Thu, Feb 9, 2023 at 11:27 AM Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > > > On Thu, Feb 09, 2023 at 10:40:34AM -0500, John Snow wrote: > > > Python 3.6 was EOL 2021-12-31. Newer versions of upstream libraries have > > > begun dropping support for this version and it is becoming more > > > cumbersome to support. Avocado-framework and qemu.qmp each have their > > > own reasons for wanting to drop Python 3.6. > > > > > > Since it is safe to under our supported platform policy, do so. > > > > Upstream EOL dates are essentially irrelevant from our platform > > support policy for deciding min versions > > > > It's relevant because as other Python packages drop support, the > burden of support is pushed onto Cleber and I, as explained in the > cover letter. It is not a justification in and of itself, but it > summarizes the ecosystem conditions that prompt the desire for the > change. > > QEMU aims to target released OS distributions, and their vendors > > may choose to support software for arbitrarily longer periods of > > time than upstream. This extended support is one of the key > > value adds of OS distributions. > > > > To justify dropping python 3.6, the commit message needs to > > illustrate that all our targetted distros are capable of > > supporting the new proposed new min version. > > That is the point of this series: illustrating that it is indeed safe > to drop Python 3.6. I am not clear on what you are actually requesting > as a change. Essentially it should explain what versions are available in each distro. See for example commit 5890258aeeba303704ec1adca415e46067800777. 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