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From: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Cc: Wander Lairson Costa <wander@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Fenghua Yu <fenghua.yu@intel.com>,
	Andrei Vagin <avagin@gmail.com>,
	open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Hu Chunyu <chuhu@redhat.com>,
	Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	Paul McKenney <paulmck@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] kernel/fork: beware of __put_task_struct calling context
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2023 17:48:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y+Z1Z85htbmMtsmH@linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230206162758.GB1487@redhat.com>

On 2023-02-06 17:27:58 [+0100], Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> On 02/06, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> >
> > On 2023-02-06 16:27:12 [+0100], Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> >
> > > > If so why not use it
> > > > unconditionally?
> > >
> > > performance ?
> >
> > All the free() part is moved from the caller into rcu.
> 
> sorry, I don't understand,

That callback does mostly free() and it is batched with other free()
invocations. This also is moved away from the caller which _might_
benefit.

> > > And... I still don't like the name of delayed_put_task_struct_rcu() to me
> > > ___put_task_struct_rcu() looks a bit less confusing, note that we already
> > > have delayed_put_task_struct(). But this is minor.
> >
> > So if we do it unconditionally then we could get rid of
> > put_task_struct_rcu_user().
> 
> Yes. But the whole purpose of rcu_users is that we want to avoid the unconditional
> rcu grace period before free_task() ?

Oh, this is usage vs rcu_users. Okay, mixed that up.

> Just in case... please note that delayed_put_task_struct() delays
> refcount_sub(t->usage), not free_task().

Just noticed ;)

> Why do we need this? Consider
> 
> 	rcu_read_lock();
> 
> 	task = find-task-in-rcu-protected-list;
> 
> 	// Safe, task->usage can't be zero
> 	get_task_struct(task);
> 
> 	rcu_read_unlock();
> 
> 
> > Otherwise we could use put_task_struct_rcu_user() in that timer
> > callback because it will lead to lockdep warnings once printk is fixed.
> 
> IIUC there are more in-atomic callers of put_task_struct(). But perhaps
> I misunderstood you...

That is true. So you are saying that we don't what to use RCU for
put_task_struct() unconditionally?

> Oleg.

Sebastian

  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-10 16:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-06 13:04 [PATCH v4] kernel/fork: beware of __put_task_struct calling context Wander Lairson Costa
2023-02-06 14:56 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-02-06 15:27   ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-02-06 16:04     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-02-06 16:27       ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-02-10 16:48         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior [this message]
2023-02-06 18:36       ` Wander Lairson Costa
2023-02-06 18:34     ` Wander Lairson Costa
2023-02-06 18:32   ` Wander Lairson Costa
2023-02-07  1:09 ` Andrew Morton
2023-02-07 15:26   ` Wander Lairson Costa
2023-02-10 17:08   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior

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