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From: Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>
To: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>
Cc: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
	"joro@8bytes.org" <joro@8bytes.org>,
	"will@kernel.org" <will@kernel.org>,
	"robin.murphy@arm.com" <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	"alex.williamson@redhat.com" <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	"shuah@kernel.org" <shuah@kernel.org>,
	"Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu@intel.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"iommu@lists.linux.dev" <iommu@lists.linux.dev>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org"
	<linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org>,
	"baolu.lu@linux.intel.com" <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 08/10] iommufd/device: Use iommu_group_replace_domain()
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2023 17:58:36 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y+w8TJ2jfDATftbr@Asurada-Nvidia> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BN9PR11MB5276CBCF780BD7C61154BF8B8CA39@BN9PR11MB5276.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 01:37:19AM +0000, Tian, Kevin wrote:
 
> > From: Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2023 6:54 PM
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 10:49:34AM -0400, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > > On Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 11:48:30PM -0800, Nicolin Chen wrote:
> > >
> > > > What about point 1? If dev2 and dev3 are already replaced when
> > > > doing iommu_group_replace_domain() on dev1, their idev objects
> > > > still have the old hwpt/iopt until user space does another two
> > > > IOCTLs on them, right?
> > >
> > > We have a complicated model for multi-device groups...
> > >
> > > The first device in the group to change domains must move all the
> > > devices in the group
> > >
> > > But userspace is still expected to run through and change all the
> > > other devices
> > >
> > > So replace should be a NOP if the group is already linked to the right
> > > domain.
> > >
> > > This patch needs to make sure that incosistency in the view betwen the
> > > iommu_group and the iommufd model doesn't cause a functional
> > > problem.
> >
> > Yea, I was thinking that we'd need to block any access to the
> > idev->hwpt of a pending device's, before the kernel finishes
> > the "NOP" IOCTL from userspace, maybe with a helper:
> >       (iommu_get_domain_for_dev(idev->dev) != idev->hwpt->domain)
> >
> 
> I didn't see what would be broken w/o such blocking measure.
> 
> Can you elaborate?

iommu_group { idev1, idev2 }

(1) Attach all devices to domain1 {
	group->domain = domain1;
	idev1->hwpt = hwpt1; // domain1
	idev2->hwpt = hwpt1; // domain1
}

(2) Attach (replace) idev1 only to domain2 {
	group->domain = domain2
	idev1->hwpt = hwpt2; // domain2
	idev2->hwpt == domain1 // != iommu_get_domain_for_dev()
}

Then if user space isn't aware of these and continues to do
IOMMU_IOAS_MAP for idev2. Though IOVA mappings may be added
onto the domain2 correctly, yet domain2's iopt itree won't
reflect that, until idev2->hwpt is updated too, right?

And the tricky thing is that, though we advocate a device-
centric uAPI, we'd still have to ask user space to align the
devices in the same iommu_group, which is also not present
in QEMU's RFC v3 series.

The traditional detach+attach flow doesn't seem to have this
issue, since there's no re-entry so the work flow is always
that detaching all devices first before attaching to another
domain.

Thanks
Nic

  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-15  1:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-07 21:17 [PATCH v2 00/10] Add IO page table replacement support Nicolin Chen
2023-02-07 21:17 ` [PATCH v2 01/10] iommu: Move dev_iommu_ops() to private header Nicolin Chen
2023-02-09  2:49   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-07 21:17 ` [PATCH v2 02/10] iommu: Introduce a new iommu_group_replace_domain() API Nicolin Chen
2023-02-09  2:55   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-09 13:23     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-10  1:34       ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-10 23:51   ` Alex Williamson
2023-02-11  0:44     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-13  2:24       ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-13  8:34         ` Baolu Lu
2023-02-13 14:45         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-14  3:29           ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-15  6:10   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-15 12:52     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-22  2:11       ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-24  0:57         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-24  8:07           ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-07 21:17 ` [PATCH v2 03/10] iommufd: Create access in vfio_iommufd_emulated_bind() Nicolin Chen
2023-02-09  2:56   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-09 16:15     ` Nicolin Chen
2023-02-09 18:58   ` Eric Farman
2023-02-09 19:54     ` Nicolin Chen
2023-02-07 21:17 ` [PATCH v2 04/10] iommufd/selftest: Add IOMMU_TEST_OP_ACCESS_SET_IOAS coverage Nicolin Chen
2023-02-09  2:59   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-07 21:17 ` [PATCH v2 05/10] iommufd: Add replace support in iommufd_access_set_ioas() Nicolin Chen
2023-02-09  3:13   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-09 20:28     ` Nicolin Chen
2023-02-09 20:49       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-09 22:18         ` Nicolin Chen
2023-02-07 21:17 ` [PATCH v2 06/10] iommufd/selftest: Add coverage for access->ioas replacement Nicolin Chen
2023-02-07 21:17 ` [PATCH v2 07/10] iommufd/device: Make hwpt_list list_add/del symmetric Nicolin Chen
2023-02-09  3:23   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-09 13:24     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-10  1:46       ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-10 21:17         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-13  2:12           ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-07 21:18 ` [PATCH v2 08/10] iommufd/device: Use iommu_group_replace_domain() Nicolin Chen
2023-02-08  8:08   ` Liu, Yi L
2023-02-09 20:55     ` Nicolin Chen
2023-02-08  8:12   ` Liu, Yi L
2023-02-09 20:56     ` Nicolin Chen
2023-02-09  4:00   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-09 21:13     ` Nicolin Chen
2023-02-10  0:01       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-10 20:50         ` Nicolin Chen
2023-02-10  2:11       ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-11  0:10         ` Nicolin Chen
2023-02-13  2:34           ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-13  7:48             ` Nicolin Chen
2023-02-13  8:27               ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-13 14:49               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-14 10:54                 ` Nicolin Chen
2023-02-15  1:37                   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-15  1:58                     ` Nicolin Chen [this message]
2023-02-15  2:15                       ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-15  7:15                         ` Nicolin Chen
2023-02-15  7:24                           ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-15 12:51                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-14 10:59         ` Nicolin Chen
2023-02-15  1:38           ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-15  7:16             ` Nicolin Chen
2023-02-07 21:18 ` [PATCH v2 09/10] vfio: Support IO page table replacement Nicolin Chen
2023-02-09  4:06   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-07 21:18 ` [PATCH v2 10/10] vfio: Do not allow !ops->dma_unmap in vfio_pin/unpin_pages() Nicolin Chen
2023-02-09  4:10   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-09 13:26     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-09 16:19       ` Nicolin Chen
2023-02-09  2:50 ` [PATCH v2 00/10] Add IO page table replacement support Tian, Kevin
2023-02-09 16:13   ` Nicolin Chen
2023-02-10  1:34     ` Tian, Kevin

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