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From: Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>
To: Connor O'Brien <connoro@google.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@android.com,
	John Stultz <jstultz@google.com>,
	Qais Yousef <qais.yousef@arm.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@redhat.com>,
	Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>, Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	"Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 10/11] torture: support randomized shuffling for proxy exec testing
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2022 16:02:00 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y3O3+NK+6/i7re3Q@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALE1s+Ox_RF81kgF0YeV7sbuBN3RbBEvSK9_z6T4uWW2U_q=RQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 12:44:21PM -0800, Connor O'Brien wrote:
> > Instead of doing it this way, maybe another approach is to randomize the
> > sleep interval in:
> >
> >  */
> > static int torture_shuffle(void *arg)
> > {
> >         VERBOSE_TOROUT_STRING("torture_shuffle task started");
> >         do {
> >                 schedule_timeout_interruptible(shuffle_interval);
> >                 torture_shuffle_tasks();
> >                 ...
> >         } while (...)
> >         ...
> > }
> >
> > Right now with this patch you still wakeup the shuffle thread when skipping
> > the affinity set operation.
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> >  - Joel
> >
> 
> Wouldn't the affinities of all the tasks still change in lockstep
> then? The intent with this patch is to get into situations where the
> tasks have different affinity masks, which I think requires changing
> the behavior of torture_shuffle_tasks() rather than how often it's
> called.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you are still changing the affinities of all the
tasks at the same time (shuffle_task_list still has all the threads being set
to the same affinity). The difference is with your patch, you occasionally
skip punching a consecutive hole into shuffle_tmp_mask.

I was thinking how you could make this patch more upstreamable, you are right
calling less often is not what you are specifically looking for. However,
would a better approach be to:
	a) randomize the shuffle duration.
	b) Instead of skipping the set_cpus_allowed_ptr(), why not randomize
	the number of times you call cpumask_next() to pick a random hole.

These are just some ideas.

thanks,

 - Joel












  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-15 16:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-03 21:44 [RFC PATCH 00/11] Reviving the Proxy Execution Series Connor O'Brien
2022-10-03 21:44 ` [RFC PATCH 01/11] locking/ww_mutex: Remove wakeups from under mutex::wait_lock Connor O'Brien
2022-10-04 16:01   ` Waiman Long
2022-10-12 23:54     ` Joel Fernandes
2022-10-20 18:43     ` Connor O'Brien
2022-10-03 21:44 ` [RFC PATCH 02/11] locking/mutex: Rework task_struct::blocked_on Connor O'Brien
2022-10-03 21:44 ` [RFC PATCH 03/11] kernel/locking: Add p->blocked_on wrapper Connor O'Brien
2022-10-03 21:44 ` [RFC PATCH 04/11] locking/mutex: make mutex::wait_lock irq safe Connor O'Brien
2022-10-13  4:30   ` Joel Fernandes
2022-10-03 21:44 ` [RFC PATCH 05/11] sched: Split scheduler execution context Connor O'Brien
2022-10-14 17:01   ` Joel Fernandes
2022-10-19 17:17   ` Valentin Schneider
2022-10-20 18:43     ` Connor O'Brien
2022-10-03 21:44 ` [RFC PATCH 06/11] kernel/locking: Expose mutex_owner() Connor O'Brien
2022-10-03 21:44 ` [RFC PATCH 07/11] sched: Add proxy execution Connor O'Brien
2022-10-12  1:54   ` Joel Fernandes
2022-10-12  9:46     ` Juri Lelli
2022-10-14 17:07     ` Joel Fernandes
2022-10-15 13:53     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-16 20:48       ` Steven Rostedt
2022-10-17  4:03         ` Joel Fernandes
2022-10-17  7:26         ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-24 22:33           ` Qais Yousef
2022-10-25 11:19             ` Joel Fernandes
2022-10-25 22:10               ` Qais Yousef
2022-10-15 15:28     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-15 15:08   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-15 15:10   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-15 15:47   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-24 10:13   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2022-10-29  3:31     ` Joel Fernandes
2022-10-31 16:39       ` Dietmar Eggemann
2022-10-31 18:00         ` Joel Fernandes
2022-11-04 17:09           ` Dietmar Eggemann
2022-11-21  0:22             ` Joel Fernandes
2022-11-21  1:49               ` Joel Fernandes
2022-11-21  3:59                 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-11-22 18:45                   ` Joel Fernandes
2023-01-09  8:51   ` Chen Yu
2022-10-03 21:44 ` [RFC PATCH 08/11] sched: Fixup task CPUs for potential proxies Connor O'Brien
2022-10-03 21:44 ` [RFC PATCH 09/11] sched/rt: Fix proxy/current (push,pull)ability Connor O'Brien
2022-10-10 11:40   ` Valentin Schneider
2022-10-14 22:32     ` Connor O'Brien
2022-10-19 17:05       ` Valentin Schneider
2022-10-20 13:30         ` Juri Lelli
2022-10-20 16:14           ` Valentin Schneider
2022-10-21  2:22         ` Connor O'Brien
2022-10-03 21:45 ` [RFC PATCH 10/11] torture: support randomized shuffling for proxy exec testing Connor O'Brien
2022-11-12 16:54   ` Joel Fernandes
2022-11-14 20:44     ` Connor O'Brien
2022-11-15 16:02       ` Joel Fernandes [this message]
2022-10-03 21:45 ` [RFC PATCH 11/11] locktorture: support nested mutexes Connor O'Brien
2022-10-06  9:59 ` [RFC PATCH 00/11] Reviving the Proxy Execution Series Juri Lelli
2022-10-06 10:07   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-06 12:14     ` Juri Lelli
2022-10-15 15:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-17  2:23 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-10-19 11:43   ` Qais Yousef
2022-10-19 12:23     ` Joel Fernandes
2022-10-19 13:41       ` Juri Lelli
2022-10-19 13:51         ` Joel Fernandes
2022-10-19 19:30         ` Qais Yousef
2022-10-20  8:51           ` Joel Fernandes
2022-10-17  3:25 ` Chengming Zhou
2022-10-17  3:56   ` Joel Fernandes
2022-10-17  4:26     ` Chengming Zhou
2022-10-17 12:27       ` Joel Fernandes

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