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From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
Cc: Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com>,
	security@kernel.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/3] mm/khugepaged: Fix GUP-fast interaction by sending IPI
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2022 15:15:49 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y4UW9dYHfrvUStsa@x1n> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAG48ez0iS2BZd9BAXZLBA3D0fzNePSLWoXqAbYWsTig4nN5FrQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Nov 28, 2022 at 08:56:54PM +0100, Jann Horn wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2022 at 8:54 PM Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 28, 2022 at 10:03 AM Jann Horn <jannh@google.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Since commit 70cbc3cc78a99 ("mm: gup: fix the fast GUP race against THP
> > > collapse"), the lockless_pages_from_mm() fastpath rechecks the pmd_t to
> > > ensure that the page table was not removed by khugepaged in between.
> > >
> > > However, lockless_pages_from_mm() still requires that the page table is not
> > > concurrently freed or reused to store non-PTE data. Otherwise, problems
> > > can occur because:
> > >
> > >  - deposited page tables can be freed when a THP page somewhere in the
> > >    mm is removed
> > >  - some architectures store non-PTE information inside deposited page
> > >    tables (see radix__pgtable_trans_huge_deposit())
> > >
> > > Additionally, lockless_pages_from_mm() is also somewhat brittle with
> > > regards to page tables being repeatedly moved back and forth, but
> > > that shouldn't be an issue in practice.
> > >
> > > Fix it by sending IPIs (if the architecture uses
> > > semi-RCU-style page table freeing) before freeing/reusing page tables.
> > >
> > > As noted in mm/gup.c, on configs that define CONFIG_HAVE_FAST_GUP,
> > > there are two possible cases:
> > >
> > >  1. CONFIG_MMU_GATHER_RCU_TABLE_FREE is set, causing
> > >     tlb_remove_table_sync_one() to send an IPI to synchronize with
> > >     lockless_pages_from_mm().
> > >  2. CONFIG_MMU_GATHER_RCU_TABLE_FREE is unset, indicating that all
> > >     TLB flushes are already guaranteed to send IPIs.
> > >     tlb_remove_table_sync_one() will do nothing, but we've already
> > >     run pmdp_collapse_flush(), which did a TLB flush, which must have
> > >     involved IPIs.
> >
> > I'm trying to catch up with the discussion after the holiday break. I
> > understand you switched from always allocating a new page table page
> > (we decided before) to sending IPIs to serialize against fast-GUP,
> > this is fine to me.
> >
> > So the code now looks like:
> >     pmdp_collapse_flush()
> >     sending IPI
> >
> > But the missing part is how we reached "TLB flushes are already
> > guaranteed to send IPIs" when CONFIG_MMU_GATHER_RCU_TABLE_FREE is
> > unset? ARM64 doesn't do it IIRC. Or did I miss something?
> 
> From arch/arm64/Kconfig:
> 
> select MMU_GATHER_RCU_TABLE_FREE
> 
> CONFIG_MMU_GATHER_RCU_TABLE_FREE is not a config option that the user
> can freely toggle; it is an option selected by the architecture.

True.

I think I understand what Yang is confused about and I had the same
question (asked in the old threads but didn't yet got a confirmation),
since I think arm64 didn't use IPI for tlb is also true (according to the
arm64 version of __flush_tlb_range), so PPC doesn't seem to be the only one.

I mentioned PPC only because I saw the comment in mmu_gather.c:

 * Architectures that do not have this (PPC) need to delay the freeing by some
 * other means, this is that means.

So I think it's obsolete.

In short, IIUC there's just an implicit dependency that any
!MMU_GATHER_RCU_TABLE_FREE arch must require IPI for tlb flush (not vice
versa, hence arm64 can have RCU_TABLE_FREE), or something could be broken.

-- 
Peter Xu



  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-11-28 20:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-28 18:02 [PATCH v4 1/3] mm/khugepaged: Take the right locks for page table retraction Jann Horn
2022-11-28 18:02 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] mm/khugepaged: Fix GUP-fast interaction by sending IPI Jann Horn
2022-11-28 19:54   ` Yang Shi
2022-11-28 19:56     ` Jann Horn
2022-11-28 20:10       ` Yang Shi
2022-11-28 20:11         ` Jann Horn
2022-11-28 22:10           ` Yang Shi
2022-11-29 15:30             ` Jann Horn
2022-11-28 20:15       ` Peter Xu [this message]
2022-11-28 18:02 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] mm/khugepaged: Invoke MMU notifiers in shmem/file collapse paths Jann Horn
2022-11-28 18:08   ` David Hildenbrand
2022-11-28 19:56   ` Yang Shi
2022-11-28 19:48 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] mm/khugepaged: Take the right locks for page table retraction Yang Shi

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