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From: Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>
To: Clay Mayers <Clay.Mayers@kioxia.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] block: add support for REQ_OP_VERIFY
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2022 11:58:17 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y4pKySy9Wi2ULEOU@kbusch-mbp.dhcp.thefacebook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f68009b7cc744c02ad69d68fd7e61751@kioxia.com>

On Fri, Dec 02, 2022 at 05:33:33PM +0000, Clay Mayers wrote:
> > 
> > As long as the protocols don't provide proof-of-work, trying this
> > doesn't really prove anything with respect to this concern.
> 
> I'm out of my depth here, but isn't VERIFY tightly related to PI and
> at the heart of detecting SAN bit-rot? The proof of work can be via
> end-to-end data protection. VERIFY has to actually read to detect bad
> host generated PI guard/tags.  I'm assuming the PI checks can be
> disabled for WRITE and enabled for VERIFY as the test.

I suppose if you happen to have a PI formatted drive, you could WRITE
garbage Guard tags with PRCHK disabled, then see if VERIFY with PRCHK
enabled returns the Guard Check Error; but PI is an optional format
feature orthogonal to the VERIFY command: we can't count on that format
being available in most implementations.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-12-02 18:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-30  9:14 [PATCH 0/6] block: add support for REQ_OP_VERIFY Chaitanya Kulkarni
2022-06-30  9:14 ` [PATCH 1/6] " Chaitanya Kulkarni
2022-06-30 16:18   ` Darrick J. Wong
2022-07-05 16:50     ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2022-07-05 17:57       ` Darrick J. Wong
2022-07-06  1:32         ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2022-07-05  8:34   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-07-05 23:55     ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2022-06-30  9:14 ` [PATCH 2/6] nvme: add support for the Verify command Chaitanya Kulkarni
2022-06-30 16:24   ` Keith Busch
2022-07-05  8:34     ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-07-05 23:56       ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2022-06-30  9:14 ` [PATCH 3/6] nvmet: add Verify command support for bdev-ns Chaitanya Kulkarni
2022-06-30  9:14 ` [PATCH 4/6] nvmet: add Verify emulation " Chaitanya Kulkarni
2022-07-05  8:35   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-07-06  0:00     ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2022-06-30  9:14 ` [PATCH 5/6] nvmet: add verify emulation support for file-ns Chaitanya Kulkarni
2022-07-05  8:36   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-07-06  0:06     ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2022-06-30  9:14 ` [PATCH 6/6] null_blk: add REQ_OP_VERIFY support Chaitanya Kulkarni
2022-07-05  8:38 ` [PATCH 0/6] block: add support for REQ_OP_VERIFY Christoph Hellwig
2022-07-05 16:47   ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2022-07-06 17:42 ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-07-13  9:14   ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2022-07-13  9:36     ` Johannes Thumshirn
2022-07-13 12:17     ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-07-13 14:04       ` Keith Busch
2022-12-01 18:12   ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2022-12-01 19:39     ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-12-02  7:16       ` Hannes Reinecke
2022-12-02 14:58         ` Keith Busch
2022-12-02 17:33           ` Clay Mayers
2022-12-02 18:58             ` Keith Busch [this message]
2022-12-09  4:52             ` Martin K. Petersen
2022-12-10 13:06               ` Carlos Carvalho
2022-12-12  6:30                 ` hch
2022-12-03  4:19           ` Javier González
2022-12-04 20:29             ` Keith Busch
2022-12-08 20:06               ` Javier González
2022-12-08 20:02             ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-12-02  7:13     ` Hannes Reinecke

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