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From: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
Cc: Jonas Oberhauser <jonas.oberhauser@huawei.com>,
	Jonas Oberhauser <jonas.oberhauser@huaweicloud.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] tools: memory-model: Make plain accesses carry dependencies
Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2022 12:14:29 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y4uuJS6dAuRT7t6r@boqun-archlinux> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20221203190226.GR4001@paulmck-ThinkPad-P17-Gen-1>

On Sat, Dec 03, 2022 at 11:02:26AM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 03, 2022 at 11:58:36AM +0000, Jonas Oberhauser wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Boqun Feng [mailto:boqun.feng@gmail.com] 
> > Sent: Friday, December 2, 2022 7:50 PM
> > 
> > > > Reviewed-by: Reviewed-by: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
> > 
> > > s/Reviewed-by: Reviewed-by:/Reviewed-by:^2 to save some space ? ;-)
> > 
> > 
> > Oh, I didn't know I'm allowed to compress things like that! Can I use ² as well to save another character?
> 
> Heh!  I might miss that, and who knows?  The bots might think that "²"
> was the first letter of your name.  ;-)
> 
> > > I wonder is this patch a first step to solve the OOTA problem you reported in OSS:
> > >	https://static.sched.com/hosted_files/osseu2022/e1/oss-eu22-jonas.pdf
> > > If so maybe it's better to put the link in the commit log I think.
> > 
> > It's not directly related to that specific problem, it does solve some other OOTA issues though.
> > If you think we should link to the talk, there's also a video with slightly more updated slides from the actual talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFDKhIxKhoQ
> > do you think I should link to both then?
> 
> It is not hard for me to add that in if people believe that it should be
> included.  But default is lazy in this case.  ;-)
> 

I brought this up because, as we recently experience in RCU code, we
need answers of "why we did this?" to the future us ;-)

I agree with Alan, this seems like a good idea, but having some big
picture of why we do this may be better.

Regards,
Boqun

> 							Thanx, Paul

  reply	other threads:[~2022-12-03 20:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-02 12:51 [PATCH v2] tools: memory-model: Make plain accesses carry dependencies Jonas Oberhauser
2022-12-02 14:44 ` Akira Yokosawa
2022-12-02 18:49 ` Boqun Feng
2022-12-03 11:58   ` Jonas Oberhauser
2022-12-03 19:02     ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-12-03 20:14       ` Boqun Feng [this message]
2022-12-03 20:40         ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-12-03 20:34       ` stern
2022-12-03 20:44         ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-12-03 20:52           ` Boqun Feng
2022-12-03 21:16             ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-12-03 21:32           ` stern
2022-12-03 23:11             ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-12-04  0:15               ` Jonas Oberhauser
2022-12-04  8:33                 ` Boqun Feng
2022-12-05 13:42                   ` Jonas Oberhauser
2022-12-05 16:18                     ` stern
2022-12-06 20:46                       ` Boqun Feng
2022-12-06 20:52                         ` Boqun Feng
2022-12-08 21:37                           ` stern
2022-12-05 19:49                     ` Boqun Feng
2022-12-07  1:43                     ` Boqun Feng
2022-12-08 21:06                       ` Boqun Feng
2022-12-09  0:01                         ` Paul E. McKenney

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