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From: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
To: Alexander Stein <alexander.stein@ew.tq-group.com>
Cc: Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	Bartosz Golaszewski <brgl@bgdev.pl>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	Marek Vasut <marex@denx.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/3] gpiolib: ramp-up delay support
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2022 14:40:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y5chUvK+SLMpm9XY@pendragon.ideasonboard.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20221212103525.231298-1-alexander.stein@ew.tq-group.com>

Hi Alexander,

On Mon, Dec 12, 2022 at 11:35:22AM +0100, Alexander Stein wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> this series is an RFC for a general approach to solve the issue at [1]. While

I'm impressed by how fast you came up with a solution :-)

> a device specific property works as well, a more generic approach is preferred.
> In short: When enabling a GPIO the actual ramp-up time might be (much) bigger
> than what software usually assume, in my case >100ms. Adding a delay to each
> driver is cumbersome.
> Instead the (optional) ramp-up delay is added to each gpio_desc. The delays can
> be specified per gpio-controller, similar to 'gpio-line-names'. Actually the
> parsing code is almost a 1:1 copy of devprop_gpiochip_set_names().

While I like consistency, I wonder if it wouldn't be better in this case
to use a list of <gpio-number delay> cells in gpio-ramp-up-delays-us. In
typical use cases, very few GPIOs will need a delay, and a GPIO
controller could support a very large number of GPIOs, which would make
your current proposal cumbersome.

> Due to
> (temporary) memory allocation, I opted for a separate function, there is code
> duplication, but handling both properties in a single function seemed too
> tedious, let alone the to be added ramp-down delays.
> 
> This feature could also be added as a callback in gpio_chip, but the callbacks
> have to be added to each driver then. I would prefer a single one-fits-all
> implementation and another indirection in the GPIO call chain.

Agreed.

> Laurent suggest to add a GPIO delay node in DT. IMHO this increased the DT
> complexity unnecessarily. But comments are welcome.

It's an alternative approach that could be considered if this one is
rejected, but I have a preference for your solution.

> The following 3 patches are a proof-of-concept on my platform, consisting of:
> Patch 1 is the proposed bindings and straight forward.
> Patch 2 is the current implementation
> Patch 3 is an actual usage example for specifying the delays
> 
> TODO:
> 1. Adding ramp-down delays (Just the inverse copy of ramp-up delay)
> 2. Should these delays take active low flags into account?

How so ?

> 3. How to deal with setting multiple GPIOs at once?
> 
> I skipped 1. for now, because this is just a copy with ramp-up being replaced
> with ramp-down.
> 
> I'm not that well versed in gpiolib code, so I'm not sure if I got all placed
> where GPIOs are set. So patch 2 might be incomplete.
> 
> For now I skipped setting multiple GPIOs at once completely, so to get some
> feedback on this approach. A possible solution is to check for the bigest delay
> in the set and use that for all afterwards. But I'm not sure about the overhead
> in this case.

I assume you're talking about the gpiod_set_array_value() API. That
sounds OK as an initial implementation, a caller of that function needs
to be prepared for the GPIOs being set in a random order due to hardware
delays, so it shouldn't break the API contract. I would however state
this explicitly in the function documentation.

> I hope there is some feedback. While thinking about this issue appears to be
> more widespread than I expected.
> 
> Best regards,
> Alexander
> 
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20221209083339.3780776-1-alexander.stein@ew.tq-group.com/
> 
> Alexander Stein (3):
>   dt-bindings: gpio: Add optional ramp-up delay property
>   gpiolib: Add support for optional ramp-up delays
>   arm64: dts: mba8mx: Add GPIO ramp-up delays
> 
>  .../devicetree/bindings/gpio/gpio.txt         | 22 +++++
>  arch/arm64/boot/dts/freescale/mba8mx.dtsi     |  5 ++
>  drivers/gpio/gpiolib.c                        | 80 +++++++++++++++++++
>  drivers/gpio/gpiolib.h                        |  3 +
>  4 files changed, 110 insertions(+)

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-12-12 12:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-12 10:35 [RFC PATCH 0/3] gpiolib: ramp-up delay support Alexander Stein
2022-12-12 10:35 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] dt-bindings: gpio: Add optional ramp-up delay property Alexander Stein
2022-12-13  9:08   ` Linus Walleij
2022-12-13 11:45     ` Laurent Pinchart
2022-12-15 10:56       ` Linus Walleij
2022-12-19 23:01         ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-01-03 11:56           ` Alexander Stein
2023-01-03 12:34             ` Laurent Pinchart
2022-12-12 10:35 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] gpiolib: Add support for optional ramp-up delays Alexander Stein
2022-12-13  9:11   ` Linus Walleij
2022-12-12 10:35 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] arm64: dts: mba8mx: Add GPIO " Alexander Stein
2022-12-12 12:40 ` Laurent Pinchart [this message]
2022-12-13  7:49   ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] gpiolib: ramp-up delay support Alexander Stein
2022-12-13 11:25     ` Laurent Pinchart
2022-12-13 14:20 ` Rob Herring
2022-12-13 15:47   ` Laurent Pinchart

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