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From: Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>
To: Hillf Danton <hdanton@sina.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	page-reclaim@google.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 00/14] Multigenerational LRU
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2021 00:49:51 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YE8Dj4uSPDE6HYM1@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210315011350.3648-1-hdanton@sina.com>

On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 09:13:50AM +0800, Hillf Danton wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Mar 2021 00:57:33 -0700 Yu Zhao wrote:
> > TLDR
> > ====
> > The current page reclaim is too expensive in terms of CPU usage and
> > often making poor choices about what to evict. We would like to offer
> > a performant, versatile and straightforward augment.
> 
> It makes my day, Monday of thick smog in one of the far east big
> cities, to read the fresh work, something like 0b0695f2b34a that removed
> heuristics as much as possible, of a coming Mr. Kswapd. 

Hi Hillf!

Sorry to hear about the smog, we don't have smog, only a few feet of
snow...

I shared the latest version of the cover letter here, if you are a fan
of Google Docs:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UxcpPAFNk1KpTJDKDXWekj_n6ebpQ-cwbXZlYoebTVM

And speaking of heuristics, yeah, I totally understand. We've had more
than fair share of problems with get_scan_count() and
inactive_is_low(). And we are still carrying a workaround (admittedly
a terrible one) we posted more that a decade ago, on some of our old
kernel versions:
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20101028191523.GA14972@google.com/

And people who run the Chrome browser but don't have this patch (non-
Chrome OS) had problems!
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/54C77086.7090505@suse.cz/

With generation numbers, the equivalent to inactive_is_low() is

  max_seq - min(min_seq[!swappiness], min_seq[1]) + 1 > MIN_NR_GENS

in get_nr_to_scan(); and the equivalent to get_scan_count() is

  *file = !swappiness || min_seq[0] > min_seq[1] ||
	  (min_seq[0] == min_seq[1] &&
	   max(lruvec->evictable.isolated[0], 1UL) * (200 - swappiness) >
	   max(lruvec->evictable.isolated[1], 1UL) * (swappiness - 1));

in isolate_lru_gen_pages(), both in the 10th patch.

They work amazingly well for us, and hopefully for you too :)


  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-15  6:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-13  7:57 [PATCH v1 00/14] Multigenerational LRU Yu Zhao
2021-03-13  7:57 ` [PATCH v1 01/14] include/linux/memcontrol.h: do not warn in page_memcg_rcu() if !CONFIG_MEMCG Yu Zhao
2021-03-13 15:09   ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-03-14  7:45     ` Yu Zhao
2021-03-13  7:57 ` [PATCH v1 02/14] include/linux/nodemask.h: define next_memory_node() if !CONFIG_NUMA Yu Zhao
2021-03-13  7:57 ` [PATCH v1 03/14] include/linux/huge_mm.h: define is_huge_zero_pmd() if !CONFIG_TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE Yu Zhao
2021-03-13  7:57 ` [PATCH v1 04/14] include/linux/cgroup.h: export cgroup_mutex Yu Zhao
2021-03-13  7:57 ` [PATCH v1 05/14] mm/swap.c: export activate_page() Yu Zhao
2021-03-13  7:57 ` [PATCH v1 06/14] mm, x86: support the access bit on non-leaf PMD entries Yu Zhao
2021-03-14 22:12   ` Zi Yan
2021-03-14 22:51     ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-03-15  0:03       ` Yu Zhao
2021-03-15  0:27         ` Zi Yan
2021-03-15  1:04           ` Yu Zhao
2021-03-14 23:22   ` Dave Hansen
2021-03-15  3:16     ` Yu Zhao
2021-03-13  7:57 ` [PATCH v1 07/14] mm/pagewalk.c: add pud_entry_post() for post-order traversals Yu Zhao
2021-03-13  7:57 ` [PATCH v1 08/14] mm/vmscan.c: refactor shrink_node() Yu Zhao
2021-03-13  7:57 ` [PATCH v1 09/14] mm: multigenerational lru: mm_struct list Yu Zhao
2021-03-15 19:40   ` Rik van Riel
2021-03-16  2:07     ` Huang, Ying
2021-03-16  3:57       ` Yu Zhao
2021-03-16  6:44         ` Huang, Ying
2021-03-16  7:56           ` Yu Zhao
2021-03-17  3:37             ` Huang, Ying
2021-03-17 10:46               ` Yu Zhao
2021-03-22  3:13                 ` Huang, Ying
2021-03-22  8:08                   ` Yu Zhao
2021-03-24  6:58                     ` Huang, Ying
2021-04-10 18:48                       ` Yu Zhao
2021-04-13  3:06                         ` Huang, Ying
2021-03-13  7:57 ` [PATCH v1 10/14] mm: multigenerational lru: core Yu Zhao
2021-03-15  2:02   ` Andi Kleen
2021-03-15  3:37     ` Yu Zhao
2021-03-13  7:57 ` [PATCH v1 11/14] mm: multigenerational lru: page activation Yu Zhao
2021-03-16 16:34   ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-03-16 21:29     ` Yu Zhao
2021-03-13  7:57 ` [PATCH v1 12/14] mm: multigenerational lru: user space interface Yu Zhao
2021-03-13 12:23   ` kernel test robot
2021-03-13 12:23     ` kernel test robot
2021-03-13  7:57 ` [PATCH v1 13/14] mm: multigenerational lru: Kconfig Yu Zhao
2021-03-13 12:53   ` kernel test robot
2021-03-13 12:53     ` kernel test robot
2021-03-13 13:36   ` kernel test robot
2021-03-13 13:36     ` kernel test robot
2021-03-13  7:57 ` [PATCH v1 14/14] mm: multigenerational lru: documentation Yu Zhao
2021-03-19  9:31   ` Alex Shi
2021-03-22  6:09     ` Yu Zhao
2021-03-14 22:48 ` [PATCH v1 00/14] Multigenerational LRU Zi Yan
2021-03-15  0:52   ` Yu Zhao
2021-03-15  1:13 ` Hillf Danton
2021-03-15  6:49   ` Yu Zhao [this message]
2021-03-15 18:00 ` Dave Hansen
2021-03-16  2:24   ` Yu Zhao
2021-03-16 14:50     ` Dave Hansen
2021-03-16 20:30       ` Yu Zhao
2021-03-16 21:14         ` Dave Hansen
2021-04-10  9:21           ` Yu Zhao
2021-04-13  3:02             ` Huang, Ying
2021-04-13 23:00               ` Yu Zhao
2021-03-15 18:38 ` Yang Shi
2021-03-16  3:38   ` Yu Zhao

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