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From: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>
To: Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>
Cc: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <arnaldo.melo@gmail.com>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>, Martin KaFai Lau <kafai@fb.com>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>,
	dwarves@vger.kernel.org, bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>,
	Kernel Team <kernel-team@fb.com>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH dwarves] btf: Generate btf for functions in the .BTF_ids section
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2021 19:05:12 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YIncGM/9BsB8h7PW@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEf4BzbzYeG9fWPe=Vugq8WG6bK79dk3byjWV9gtCX_v7L0XLw@mail.gmail.com>

Em Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 12:45:10PM -0700, Andrii Nakryiko escreveu:
> On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 6:10 AM Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <arnaldo.melo@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Em Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 01:38:51PM -0700, Andrii Nakryiko escreveu:
> > > On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 5:34 AM Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org> wrote:

> > > > And tools that expect to trace a function can get that information from
> > > > the BTF info instead of getting some failure when trying to trace those
> > > > functions, right?

> > > I don't think it belongs in BTF, though.

> > My thinking was that since BTF is used when tracing, one would be
> > interested in knowing if some functions can't be used for that.

> > > Plus there are additional limitations enforced by BPF verifier that
> > > will prevent some functions to be attached. So just because the
> > > function is in BTF doesn't mean it's 100% attachable.

> > Well, at least we would avoid some that can't for sure be used for
> > tracing. But, a bit in there is precious, so probably geting a NACK from
> > the kernel should be a good enough capability query. :-)

> > Tools should just silently prune things in wildcards provided by the
> > user that aren't traceable, silently, and provide an error message when
> > the user explicitely asks for tracing a verbotten function.

> Yep, that's what I'm doing in my retsnoop tool (I both filter by
> available kprobes [0], and have extra blacklist [1]). Loading kprobes
> is pretty simple and fast enough, shouldn't be a problem.

>   [0] https://github.com/anakryiko/retsnoop/blob/master/src/mass_attacher.c#L495
>   [1] https://github.com/anakryiko/retsnoop/blob/master/src/mass_attacher.c#L41

Oh my, one more tool to download, build, try, have updated, etc. Will
look at it, thanks for the pointer.

- Arnaldo

  reply	other threads:[~2021-04-28 22:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-23 21:37 [PATCH dwarves] btf: Generate btf for functions in the .BTF_ids section Martin KaFai Lau
2021-04-26 23:26 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-04-27 11:38   ` Jiri Olsa
2021-04-27 12:34     ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2021-04-27 12:43       ` Jiri Olsa
2021-04-27 20:38       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-04-28 13:10         ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2021-04-28 19:45           ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-04-28 22:05             ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo [this message]
2021-05-01  0:16     ` Martin KaFai Lau
2021-05-01 22:23       ` Jiri Olsa
2021-04-27 11:42 ` Jiri Olsa
2021-04-27 18:20   ` Martin KaFai Lau

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