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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Ben Gardon <bgardon@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>, Peter Shier <pshier@google.com>,
	Yulei Zhang <yulei.kernel@gmail.com>,
	Wanpeng Li <kernellwp@gmail.com>,
	Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong.eric@gmail.com>,
	Kai Huang <kai.huang@intel.com>,
	Keqian Zhu <zhukeqian1@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 7/8] KVM: x86/mmu: Protect rmaps independently with SRCU
Date: Mon, 10 May 2021 17:45:37 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YJlxQe1AXljq5yhQ@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e2e73709-f247-1a60-4835-f3fad37ab736@redhat.com>

On Fri, May 07, 2021, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On 06/05/21 20:42, Ben Gardon wrote:
> > In preparation for lazily allocating the rmaps when the TDP MMU is in
> > use, protect the rmaps with SRCU. Unfortunately, this requires
> > propagating a pointer to struct kvm around to several functions.
> 
> Thinking more about it, this is not needed because all reads of the rmap
> array are guarded by the load-acquire of kvm->arch.memslots_have_rmaps.
> That is, the pattern is always
> 
> 	if (!load-acquire(memslot_have_rmaps))
> 		return;
> 	... = __gfn_to_rmap(...)
> 
> 				slots->arch.rmap[x] = ...
> 				store-release(memslot_have_rmaps, true)
> 
> where the load-acquire/store-release have the same role that
> srcu_dereference/rcu_assign_pointer had before this patch.
> 
> We also know that any read that misses the check has the potential for a
> NULL pointer dereference, so it *has* to be like that.
> 
> That said, srcu_dereference has zero cost unless debugging options are
> enabled, and it *is* true that the rmap can disappear if kvm->srcu is not
> held, so I lean towards keeping this change and just changing the commit
> message like this:
> 
> ---------
> Currently, rmaps are always allocated and published together with a new
> memslot, so the srcu_dereference for the memslots array already ensures that
> the memory pointed to by slots->arch.rmap is zero at the time
> slots->arch.rmap.  However, they still need to be accessed in an SRCU
> read-side critical section, as the whole memslot can be deleted outside
> SRCU.
> --------

I disagree, sprinkling random and unnecessary __rcu/SRCU annotations does more
harm than good.  Adding the unnecessary tag could be quite misleading as it
would imply the rmap pointers can _change_ independent of the memslots.

Similary, adding rcu_assign_pointer() in alloc_memslot_rmap() implies that its
safe to access the rmap after its pointer is assigned, and that's simply not
true since an rmap array can be freed if rmap allocation for a different memslot
fails.  Accessing the rmap is safe if and only if all rmaps are allocated, i.e.
if arch.memslots_have_rmaps is true, as you pointed out.

Furthermore, to actually gain any protection from SRCU, there would have to be
an synchronize_srcu() call after assigning the pointers, and that _does_ have an
associated.  Not to mention that to truly respect the __rcu annotation, deleting
the rmaps would also have to be done "independently" with the correct
rcu_assign_pointer() and synchronize_srcu() logic.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-10 17:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-06 18:42 [PATCH v3 0/8] Lazily allocate memslot rmaps Ben Gardon
2021-05-06 18:42 ` [PATCH v3 1/8] KVM: x86/mmu: Deduplicate rmap freeing Ben Gardon
2021-05-07  7:42   ` David Hildenbrand
2021-05-06 18:42 ` [PATCH v3 2/8] KVM: x86/mmu: Factor out allocating memslot rmap Ben Gardon
2021-05-07  7:46   ` David Hildenbrand
2021-05-10 16:29     ` Ben Gardon
2021-05-06 18:42 ` [PATCH v3 3/8] KVM: mmu: Refactor memslot copy Ben Gardon
2021-05-07  7:48   ` David Hildenbrand
2021-05-06 18:42 ` [PATCH v3 4/8] KVM: mmu: Add slots_arch_lock for memslot arch fields Ben Gardon
2021-05-06 18:42 ` [PATCH v3 5/8] KVM: x86/mmu: Add a field to control memslot rmap allocation Ben Gardon
2021-05-06 23:44   ` Ben Gardon
2021-05-07  7:50     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-05-07  8:28     ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-05-10 16:14       ` Ben Gardon
2021-05-10 16:33         ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-05-10 16:37           ` Ben Gardon
2021-05-06 18:42 ` [PATCH v3 6/8] KVM: x86/mmu: Skip rmap operations if rmaps not allocated Ben Gardon
2021-05-06 23:07   ` kernel test robot
2021-05-06 23:07     ` kernel test robot
2021-05-06 18:42 ` [PATCH v3 7/8] KVM: x86/mmu: Protect rmaps independently with SRCU Ben Gardon
2021-05-06 23:58   ` kernel test robot
2021-05-06 23:58     ` kernel test robot
2021-05-07  0:56   ` kernel test robot
2021-05-07  0:56     ` kernel test robot
2021-05-07  8:42   ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-05-10 17:45     ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2021-05-10 17:53       ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-05-10 18:28         ` Sean Christopherson
2021-05-11 16:22           ` Ben Gardon
2021-05-11 16:45             ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-05-06 18:42 ` [PATCH v3 8/8] KVM: x86/mmu: Lazily allocate memslot rmaps Ben Gardon
2021-05-07  1:10   ` kernel test robot
2021-05-07  1:10     ` kernel test robot
2021-05-07  8:28   ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-05-07  7:40 ` [PATCH v3 0/8] " David Hildenbrand

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