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From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: Lukas Straub <lukasstraub2@web.de>
Cc: Hailiang Zhang <zhang.zhanghailiang@huawei.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	"Dr . David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	Wei Wang <wei.w.wang@intel.com>,
	Leonardo Bras Soares Passos <lsoaresp@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] migration: Move bitmap_mutex out of migration_bitmap_clear_dirty()
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 14:37:11 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YOSi13An2hTDNDhD@t490s> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210704161457.17505f40@gecko.fritz.box>

On Sun, Jul 04, 2021 at 04:14:57PM +0200, Lukas Straub wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Jul 2021 18:31:15 +0200
> Lukas Straub <lukasstraub2@web.de> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 30 Jun 2021 16:08:05 -0400
> > Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > Taking the mutex every time for each dirty bit to clear is too slow, especially
> > > we'll take/release even if the dirty bit is cleared.  So far it's only used to
> > > sync with special cases with qemu_guest_free_page_hint() against migration
> > > thread, nothing really that serious yet.  Let's move the lock to be upper.
> > > 
> > > There're two callers of migration_bitmap_clear_dirty().
> > > 
> > > For migration, move it into ram_save_iterate().  With the help of MAX_WAIT
> > > logic, we'll only run ram_save_iterate() for no more than 50ms-ish time, so
> > > taking the lock once there at the entry.  It also means any call sites to
> > > qemu_guest_free_page_hint() can be delayed; but it should be very rare, only
> > > during migration, and I don't see a problem with it.
> > > 
> > > For COLO, move it up to colo_flush_ram_cache().  I think COLO forgot to take
> > > that lock even when calling ramblock_sync_dirty_bitmap(), where another example
> > > is migration_bitmap_sync() who took it right.  So let the mutex cover both the
> > > ramblock_sync_dirty_bitmap() and migration_bitmap_clear_dirty() calls.  
> > 
> > Hi,
> > I don't think COLO needs it, colo_flush_ram_cache() only runs on
> > the secondary (incoming) side and AFAIK the bitmap is only set in
> > ram_load_precopy() and they don't run in parallel.
> > 
> > Although I'm not sure what ramblock_sync_dirty_bitmap() does. I guess
> > it's only there to make the rest of the migration code happy?
> 
> To answer myself, it syncs the dirty bitmap of the guest itself with
> the ramblock. Of course not only changed pages on the primary need to
> be overwritten from the cache, but also changed pages on the secondary
> so the ram content exactly matches the primary's.
> 
> Now, I still don't know what would run concurrently there since the
> guest is stopped when colo_flush_ram_cache() runs.

Indeed I know little on COLO so I don't know whether it's needed in practise.
It's just easier to always take the mutex as long as those protected fields are
modified; mutexes always work with single threaded apps anyways.

Or do you prefer me to drop it?  I'll need to rely on your colo knowledge to
know whether it's safe..  I don't think common migration code will be run
during colo, then would qemu_guest_free_page_hint() be called for a colo SVM?
If not, it looks safe to drop the mutex indeed.

Thanks,

-- 
Peter Xu



  reply	other threads:[~2021-07-06 18:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-30 20:08 [PATCH] migration: Move bitmap_mutex out of migration_bitmap_clear_dirty() Peter Xu
2021-07-01  4:42 ` Wang, Wei W
2021-07-01 12:51   ` Peter Xu
2021-07-01 14:21     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-07-02  2:48       ` Wang, Wei W
2021-07-02  7:06         ` David Hildenbrand
2021-07-03  2:53           ` Wang, Wei W
2021-07-05 13:41             ` David Hildenbrand
2021-07-06  9:41               ` Wang, Wei W
2021-07-06 10:05                 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-07-06 17:39                   ` Peter Xu
2021-07-07 12:45                     ` Wang, Wei W
2021-07-07 16:45                       ` Peter Xu
2021-07-07 23:25                         ` Wang, Wei W
2021-07-08  0:21                           ` Peter Xu
2021-07-06 17:47             ` Peter Xu
2021-07-07  8:34               ` Wang, Wei W
2021-07-07 16:54                 ` Peter Xu
2021-07-08  2:55                   ` Wang, Wei W
2021-07-08 18:10                     ` Peter Xu
2021-07-02  2:29     ` Wang, Wei W
2021-07-06 17:59       ` Peter Xu
2021-07-07  8:33         ` Wang, Wei W
2021-07-07 16:44           ` Peter Xu
2021-07-08  2:49             ` Wang, Wei W
2021-07-08 18:30               ` Peter Xu
2021-07-09  8:58                 ` Wang, Wei W
2021-07-09 14:48                   ` Peter Xu
2021-07-13  8:20                     ` Wang, Wei W
2021-07-03 16:31 ` Lukas Straub
2021-07-04 14:14   ` Lukas Straub
2021-07-06 18:37     ` Peter Xu [this message]
2021-07-13  8:40 ` Wang, Wei W
2021-07-13 10:22   ` David Hildenbrand
2021-07-14  5:03     ` Wang, Wei W
2021-07-13 15:59   ` Peter Xu
2021-07-14  5:04     ` Wang, Wei W

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