All of lore.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: "avagin@gmail.com" <avagin@gmail.com>
To: David Laight <David.Laight@aculab.com>
Cc: 'Bui Quang Minh' <minhquangbui99@gmail.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"davem@davemloft.net" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"kuba@kernel.org" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org" <yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org>,
	"dsahern@kernel.org" <dsahern@kernel.org>,
	"willemb@google.com" <willemb@google.com>,
	"pabeni@redhat.com" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	"alexander@mihalicyn.com" <alexander@mihalicyn.com>,
	"lesedorucalin01@gmail.com" <lesedorucalin01@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] udp: UDP socket send queue repair
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2021 09:22:20 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YRviPJwrnuh9Nn35@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <29dc7ac9781344f1a57e16c14900a7da@AcuMS.aculab.com>

On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 01:00:12PM +0000, David Laight wrote:
> From: Bui Quang Minh
> > Sent: 13 August 2021 12:08
> ...
> > The reason we want to dump the packet in send queue is to make to state of the
> > application consistent. The scenario is that when an application sends UDP
> > packets via UDP_CORK socket or with MSG_MORE, CRIU comes and checkpoints the
> > application. If we drop the data in send queue, when application restores, it
> > sends some more data then turns off the cork and actually sends a packet. The
> > receiving side may get that packet but it's unusual that the first part of that
> > packet is missing because we drop it. So we try to solve this problem with some
> > help from the Linux kernel.
> 
> Patient: It hurts if I do xxx.
> Doctor: Don't do xxx then.
> 
> It has to be more efficient to buffer partial UDP packets
> in userspace and only send when all the packet is available.

You are right. It can be more efficient, but we don't have controls over
user-space processes, and they can do whatever the kernel allows them to
do.

> 
> 	David
> 
> -
> Registered Address Lakeside, Bramley Road, Mount Farm, Milton Keynes, MK1 1PT, UK
> Registration No: 1397386 (Wales)

  reply	other threads:[~2021-08-17 16:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-11 15:45 [PATCH v2 1/2] udp: UDP socket send queue repair Bui Quang Minh
2021-08-11 16:14 ` Eric Dumazet
2021-08-12 13:46   ` Bui Quang Minh
2021-08-12 15:51     ` Eric Dumazet
2021-08-13 11:08       ` Bui Quang Minh
2021-08-13 13:00         ` David Laight
2021-08-17 16:22           ` avagin [this message]
2021-08-16 14:35         ` Willem de Bruijn
2021-08-16 14:38 ` Willem de Bruijn

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=YRviPJwrnuh9Nn35@gmail.com \
    --to=avagin@gmail.com \
    --cc=David.Laight@aculab.com \
    --cc=alexander@mihalicyn.com \
    --cc=davem@davemloft.net \
    --cc=dsahern@kernel.org \
    --cc=eric.dumazet@gmail.com \
    --cc=kuba@kernel.org \
    --cc=lesedorucalin01@gmail.com \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=minhquangbui99@gmail.com \
    --cc=netdev@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=pabeni@redhat.com \
    --cc=willemb@google.com \
    --cc=yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.