From: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
To: Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>
Cc: "Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
"Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
"Greg Kurz" <groug@kaod.org>,
"QEMU Developers" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
qemu-arm <qemu-arm@nongnu.org>, qemu-ppc <qemu-ppc@nongnu.org>,
"John Paul Adrian Glaubitz" <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] dtc: Update to version 1.6.1
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2021 14:35:44 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YVfhoE1H9zJoHFcC@yekko> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9e3620ce-4a79-da2c-aaf1-20832622c576@redhat.com>
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On Fri, Oct 01, 2021 at 01:41:04PM +0200, Thomas Huth wrote:
> On 01/10/2021 11.44, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 01, 2021 at 10:37:51AM +0100, Peter Maydell wrote:
> > > On Fri, 1 Oct 2021 at 10:10, Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 09:10:12AM +0200, Thomas Huth wrote:
> > > > > On 27/08/2021 14.09, Thomas Huth wrote:
> > > > > > The dtc submodule is currently pointing to non-release commit. It's nicer
> > > > > > if submodules point to release versions instead and since dtc 1.6.1 is
> > > > > > available now, let's update to that version.
> > >
> > > > Most of our supported platforms don't have version 1.6.1 available.
> > > >
> > > > As a general goal IMHO we should be seeking to eliminate bundling of
> > > > 3rd party modules that are commonly available in distros. We've
> > > > carried dtc for a hell of a long time, and if we keep updating our
> > > > submodule we'll keep relyin on new features, and never be able to
> > > > drop it because it will always be newer than what's in the distros.
> > > >
> > > > So personally I think we should never again update dtc and capstone
> > > > modules. If we want to take adbantage of new features, then do that
> > > > through conditional compilation, as we do for any of the other 3rd
> > > > party libraries consumed.
>
> I basically agree, especially for capstone. But for dtc, that also means
> that we cannot compile certain target boards if its not available ... that's
> somewhat more ugly than if there is just a missing backend feature ... but I
> guess it's still ok. Users could always install a recent libfdt first.
>
> > > I agree in general, but (per the commit message here) our dtc
> > > submodule is currently pointing at some random not-a-release
> > > commit in upstream dtc. We should at least move forward to
> > > whatever the next released dtc after that is, before we say
> > > "no more dtc updates".
> >
> > Yep, if we want to fix it onto an official version tag, that's
> > OK, just not jumping right to very latest version.
>
> That was the intention here. Accidentally, the first release tag after the
> commit that we are currently using, is version 1.6.1, which also happens to
> be the latest version, too.
Note that while I think this is a good idea, there's no real stability
difference between official releases and any random git commit. I
tend to make releases when somebody complains that there's a new
feature or fix they want that isn't yet in a numbered release. They
don't get any additional testing beyond the build-in make check which
I also run on every commit.. and which is generally fine, because the
coverage is pretty good (a rather contrained problem space makes that
relatively easy).
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-10-02 6:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-08-27 12:08 [PATCH 0/3] dtc: Fixes for the fdt check and update submodule to 1.6.1 Thomas Huth
2021-08-27 12:08 ` [PATCH 1/3] meson.build: Fix the check for a usable libfdt Thomas Huth
2021-08-27 12:09 ` [PATCH 2/3] meson.build: Don't use internal libfdt if the user requested the system libfdt Thomas Huth
2021-08-27 13:05 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-08-27 12:09 ` [PATCH 3/3] dtc: Update to version 1.6.1 Thomas Huth
2021-09-30 7:10 ` Thomas Huth
2021-09-30 11:56 ` Greg Kurz
2021-10-01 1:42 ` David Gibson
2021-10-01 1:41 ` David Gibson
2021-10-01 9:08 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-10-01 9:37 ` Peter Maydell
2021-10-01 9:44 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-10-01 9:51 ` Peter Maydell
2021-10-01 9:57 ` Peter Maydell
2021-10-01 11:41 ` Thomas Huth
2021-10-02 4:35 ` David Gibson [this message]
2021-10-01 17:54 ` Brad Smith
2021-10-01 18:08 ` Brad Smith
2021-08-27 12:22 ` [PATCH 0/3] dtc: Fixes for the fdt check and update submodule to 1.6.1 Marc-André Lureau
2021-08-27 15:17 ` [PATCH 4/3] gitlab-ci: Don't try to use the system libfdt in the debian job Thomas Huth
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