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From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: "Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <f4bug@amsat.org>
Cc: "Christophe Leroy" <christophe.leroy@c-s.fr>,
	"Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	"Thomas Huth" <thuth@redhat.com>,
	dbarboza@redhat.com, "Alexey Kardashevskiy" <aik@ozlabs.ru>,
	"Mark Cave-Ayland" <mark.cave-ayland@ilande.co.uk>,
	"QEMU Developers" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Christophe Leroy" <christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu>,
	"Greg Kurz" <groug@kaod.org>, "Cédric Le Goater" <clg@kaod.org>,
	"Alexander Graf" <agraf@csgraf.de>,
	qemu-ppc <qemu-ppc@nongnu.org>,
	"Wainer dos Santos Moschetta" <wainersm@redhat.com>,
	"Cleber Rosa" <crosa@redhat.com>,
	"Hervé Poussineau" <hpoussin@reactos.org>,
	"Edgar E. Iglesias" <edgar.iglesias@gmail.com>,
	"David Gibson" <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
Subject: Re: Deprecate the ppc405 boards in QEMU? (was: [PATCH v3 4/7] MAINTAINERS: Orphan obscure ppc platforms)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2021 17:20:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YVx7YGqUENP83vNF@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <268ffea6-9a3e-fcba-6722-7d1f24cf5794@amsat.org>

On Tue, Oct 05, 2021 at 06:15:35PM +0200, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote:
> On 10/5/21 10:49, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 05, 2021 at 06:44:23AM +0200, Christophe Leroy wrote:
> 
> >> I will look at it, please allow me a few weeks though.
> > 
> > Once something is deprecated, it remains in QEMU for a minimum of two
> > release cycles, before being deleted. At any time in that deprecation
> > period it can be returned to supported status, if someone provides a
> > good enough justification to keep it.
> 
> My understanding is once being in deprecated state for 2 releases, it
> can be removed, but it doesn't have to be removed (assuming it is
> functional and nobody complains). Am I incorrect?

It should be removed after 2 releases. Things live longer because
people forget or are busy with other things, but ultimately anything
in the deprecated list is liable to be deleted at any point after
the 2 release minimum is up.

If we change our minds about deleting something, then it should
be un-deprecated.

> I am raising this because the nanoMIPS support is in deprecated state
> since more than 2 releases, but it is still in-tree and I try to keep
> it functional. However, since no toolchain reached mainstream GCC/LLVM
> it is not easy to maintain. By keeping it in that state we give some
> time to other communities to have their toolchain upstreamed / merged.

If you're trying to keep it functional and aren't going to remove
it, then it shouldn't be marked deprecated.



Regards,
Daniel
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  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-05 17:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-27  4:48 [PATCH v3 0/7] Reduce load on ppc target maintainers David Gibson
2021-09-27  4:48 ` [PATCH v3 1/7] qemu: Split machine_ppc.py acceptance tests David Gibson
2021-09-27  4:50   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-09-27 16:44   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-09-27 16:53     ` Cédric Le Goater
2021-09-27 17:18       ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-09-27  4:48 ` [PATCH v3 2/7] MAINTAINERS: Remove machine specific files from ppc TCG CPUs entry David Gibson
2021-09-27  4:48 ` [PATCH v3 3/7] MAINTAINERS: Remove David & Greg as reviewers for a number of boards David Gibson
2021-09-27  4:48 ` [PATCH v3 4/7] MAINTAINERS: Orphan obscure ppc platforms David Gibson
2021-10-01  8:35   ` Deprecate the ppc405 boards in QEMU? (was: [PATCH v3 4/7] MAINTAINERS: Orphan obscure ppc platforms) Thomas Huth
2021-10-01  9:14     ` Christophe Leroy
2021-10-01  9:43       ` Thomas Huth
2021-10-01 11:12         ` Peter Maydell
2021-10-01 12:04           ` Thomas Huth
2021-10-01 13:04             ` Christophe Leroy
2021-10-01 13:14               ` Cédric Le Goater
2021-10-01 13:24               ` Peter Maydell
2021-10-01 14:18               ` Thomas Huth
2021-10-05  0:48                 ` David Gibson
2021-10-05  4:44                   ` Christophe Leroy
2021-10-05  6:18                     ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2021-10-05  6:42                       ` Thomas Huth
2021-10-05  8:05                         ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2021-10-05  8:07                           ` Thomas Huth
2021-10-05  8:51                             ` Deprecate the ppc405 boards in QEMU? Thomas Huth
2021-10-05 12:17                               ` BALATON Zoltan
2021-10-05 12:35                                 ` Thomas Huth
2021-10-05 21:53                                   ` BALATON Zoltan
2021-10-06  6:39                                     ` Thomas Huth
2021-10-06  7:25                                     ` Thomas Huth
2021-10-11  8:10                                       ` Thomas Huth
2021-10-11  9:20                                         ` David Gibson
2021-10-11 13:24                                           ` Thomas Huth
2021-10-19  9:31                                             ` Christophe Leroy
2021-10-19  9:39                                               ` Thomas Huth
2021-10-19  9:48                                                 ` Christophe Leroy
2021-10-19 10:07                                                   ` BALATON Zoltan
2021-10-19 11:11                                                     ` Thomas Huth
2021-10-19 11:51                                                       ` Christophe Leroy
2021-10-19 12:38                                                         ` BALATON Zoltan
2021-10-19 13:44                                                           ` Christophe Leroy
2021-10-19 14:24                                                             ` Christophe Leroy
2021-10-19 14:56                                                               ` BALATON Zoltan
2021-10-19 16:12                                                                 ` Christophe Leroy
2021-10-19 20:55                                                                   ` Cédric Le Goater
2021-10-19 21:30                                                                   ` Cédric Le Goater
2021-10-20  9:02                                                                     ` Christophe Leroy
2021-10-20 10:10                                                                       ` Cédric Le Goater
2021-10-20 13:27                                                                         ` LEROY Christophe
2021-10-20 14:31                                                                           ` BALATON Zoltan
2021-10-20 14:34                                                                             ` Thomas Huth
2021-10-20 14:41                                                                               ` Cédric Le Goater
2021-10-20 15:03                                                                                 ` LEROY Christophe
2021-10-20 14:39                                                                           ` Cédric Le Goater
2021-10-20 15:28                                                                             ` LEROY Christophe
2021-10-20 10:21                                                       ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-10-20 11:40                                                         ` BALATON Zoltan
2021-10-20 10:12                                                     ` CLI: Using -bios AND -kernel Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-10-20 10:54                                                       ` Thomas Huth
2021-10-20 11:35                                                         ` BALATON Zoltan
2021-10-19  9:41                                               ` Deprecate the ppc405 boards in QEMU? Greg Kurz
2021-10-05  8:14                       ` Deprecate the ppc405 boards in QEMU? (was: [PATCH v3 4/7] MAINTAINERS: Orphan obscure ppc platforms) Cédric Le Goater
2021-10-05 12:20                         ` BALATON Zoltan
2021-10-05 12:29                           ` Thomas Huth
2021-10-20 10:26                             ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-10-20 11:42                               ` BALATON Zoltan
2021-10-20 12:43                                 ` Cédric Le Goater
2021-10-20 13:16                                   ` LEROY Christophe
2021-10-20 15:04                                     ` Simon Marchi
2021-10-21  6:48                                     ` Christophe Leroy
2021-10-21  7:25                                       ` Deprecate the ppc405 boards in QEMU? Thomas Huth
2021-10-21  8:01                                         ` Christophe Leroy
2021-10-28 12:24                                     ` Deprecate the ppc405 boards in QEMU? (was: [PATCH v3 4/7] MAINTAINERS: Orphan obscure ppc platforms) Luis Machado
2021-10-28 17:27                                       ` Christophe Leroy
2021-10-20 13:35                                   ` Deprecate the ppc405 boards in QEMU? Thomas Huth
2021-10-20 14:55                                     ` BALATON Zoltan
2021-10-20 15:04                                       ` Thomas Huth
2021-10-20 14:16                                   ` Deprecate the ppc405 boards in QEMU? (was: [PATCH v3 4/7] MAINTAINERS: Orphan obscure ppc platforms) BALATON Zoltan
2021-10-05  8:49                     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-10-05 16:15                       ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-10-05 16:20                         ` Daniel P. Berrangé [this message]
2021-10-27  4:06                           ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-10-27  8:40                             ` Cédric Le Goater
2021-10-27 10:42                               ` Christophe Leroy
2021-10-27 10:48                                 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-10-27 17:03                                 ` Cédric Le Goater
2021-09-27  4:48 ` [PATCH v3 5/7] MAINTAINERS: Remove David & Greg as reviewers/co-maintainers of powernv David Gibson
2021-09-27  4:48 ` [PATCH v3 6/7] MAINTAINERS: Add information for OpenPIC David Gibson
2021-09-29  7:08   ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2021-09-27  4:48 ` [PATCH v3 7/7] MAINTAINERS: Demote sPAPR from "Supported" to "Maintained" David Gibson
2021-09-30  1:15 ` [PATCH v3 0/7] Reduce load on ppc target maintainers David Gibson
2021-10-06  9:52   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2021-10-06 11:03     ` Greg Kurz

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