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From: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>
To: Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>
Cc: Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>, Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>, Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] perf evsel: Fix missing exclude_{host,guest} setting
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2021 18:03:17 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YYL5FaKQ1ZvGwd08@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABPqkBQkqehAvpfJk77WZpXezrVO6cAj=9ktKFgL=C_m84_Dgg@mail.gmail.com>

Em Wed, Nov 03, 2021 at 10:35:04AM -0700, Stephane Eranian escreveu:
> On Wed, Nov 3, 2021 at 4:32 AM Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org> wrote:
> > Em Wed, Nov 03, 2021 at 12:44:12AM -0700, Stephane Eranian escreveu:
> > > On Wed, Nov 3, 2021 at 12:24 AM Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > > > If the pmu doesn't support host/guest filtering, pmu/bla1/G
> > > > > may count something.  Not sure if it's better to error out.
> > > > > But the cycles:G and instructions:G should result in 0
> > > > > in case there's no VM running.

> > > > hm, I think if pmu doesn't support host/guest filtering then
> > > > I think 'pmu/bla1/G' should error, no? better no number than
> > > > bad number

> > > Yes, it should in my opinion.

> > Yeah, I thought about this yesterday (holiday here).

> Otherwise you create the illusion that you are monitoring in guest
> mode when you are not.

> The question is: how can the tool know which modifiers are supported
> per pmu model?

As things stand kernel-wise, we should just do capability querying, i.e.
if the user asks for a feature not available for a specific PMU, we
should refuse and provide a helpful error message to the user.

If the PMUs in the kernel had some kind of mask that stated what of the
'struct perf_event_attr' selectable features are supported, then we
would just be able to avoid bothering the kernel asking for unsupported
stuff.

Just for exclude_guest we don't even need to have
evsel->pmu->missing_features.exclude_guest, as this is a hard error, no
point in caching previous capability queries.

- Arnaldo

  reply	other threads:[~2021-11-03 21:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-29 22:49 [PATCH v3] perf evsel: Fix missing exclude_{host,guest} setting Namhyung Kim
2021-10-31 11:13 ` Jiri Olsa
2021-11-01 21:09 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2021-11-02 23:08   ` Namhyung Kim
2021-11-02 14:10 ` Jiri Olsa
2021-11-02 23:21   ` Namhyung Kim
2021-11-03  7:24     ` Jiri Olsa
2021-11-03  7:44       ` Stephane Eranian
2021-11-03 11:32         ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2021-11-03 17:35           ` Stephane Eranian
2021-11-03 21:03             ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo [this message]
2021-11-03 22:29               ` Stephane Eranian
2021-11-04 17:40                 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2021-11-04 21:38                   ` Namhyung Kim
2021-11-03  7:21 ` Ravi Bangoria
2021-11-05 18:00   ` Namhyung Kim
2021-11-06 19:24     ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2021-11-07 10:25       ` Ravi Bangoria
2021-11-07 10:57         ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2021-11-08 18:50         ` Namhyung Kim

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