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From: Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>
To: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: sorting out the freeze / quiesce mess
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2021 18:45:52 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YYui4DJeeKyq0HI8@T590> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <477f3098-39be-ad07-e2fb-3ef3309c4dce@suse.de>

On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 11:22:05AM +0100, Hannes Reinecke wrote:
> On 11/10/21 10:14 AM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > Hi Jens and Ming,
> > 
> > I've been looking into properly supporting queue freezing for bio based
> > drivers (that is only release q_usage_counter on bio completion for them).
> > And the deeper I look into the code the more I'm confused by us having
> > the blk_mq_quiesce* interface in addition to blk_freeze_queue.  What
> > is a good reason to do a quiesce separately from a freeze?
> > 
> IIRC the 'quiesce' interface was an abstraction from the SCSI 'quiesce'
> operation, where we had to stop all I/O except for TMFs and scanning.
> And 'freeze' was designed fro stopping all I/O.
> 
> But I'm not sure if that ever was the distinction, or if it still
> applies today.
> 
> And yeah, I've been wondering myself.
> 
> Probably we should just kill the 'quiesce' stuff and see where we end up :-)

In case of EH, no queued requests can be completed, however driver still
needs to stop queue and reset hardware, then how can you use freeze to stop
queue? See nvme_dev_disable().

Freeze can stop to allocate new request and drain all queued requests, but
it can't prevent IO from being queued to LLD. On the contrary,
blk_mq_freeze_queue_wait() requires LLD to handle IO for moving on,
otherwise it will wait forever.

Thanks,
Ming


  reply	other threads:[~2021-11-10 10:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-10  9:14 sorting out the freeze / quiesce mess Christoph Hellwig
2021-11-10  9:29 ` Ming Lei
2021-11-10  9:52   ` Ming Lei
2021-11-10 12:58   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-11-10 14:56     ` Ming Lei
2021-11-10 10:22 ` Hannes Reinecke
2021-11-10 10:45   ` Ming Lei [this message]
2021-11-10 12:32   ` James Bottomley
2021-11-10 13:30 ` Max Gurtovoy

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