From: Chris Down <chris@chrisdown.name>
To: Zhaoyang Huang <huangzhaoyang@gmail.com>
Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Nitin Gupta <ngupta@vflare.org>,
Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>,
Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
Zhaoyang Huang <zhaoyang.huang@unisoc.com>,
"open list:MEMORY MANAGEMENT" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] mm: count zram read/write into PSI_IO_WAIT
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2021 17:45:22 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YbDvMqgRxBe3IPVS@chrisdown.name> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGWkznEHTVJzrCqfZRSHN=HtFjKHBGy0yyxpK8paP+9W1DsX_w@mail.gmail.com>
Zhaoyang Huang writes:
>No. Block device related D-state will be counted in via
>psi_dequeue(io_wait). What I am proposing here is do NOT ignore the
>influence on non-productive time by huge numbers of in-context swap
>in/out (zram like). This can help to make IO pressure more accurate
>and coordinate with the number of PSWPIN/OUT. It is like counting the
>IO time within filemap_fault->wait_on_page_bit_common into
>psi_mem_stall, which introduces memory pressure high by IO.
I think part of the confusion here is that the name "io" doesn't really just
mean "io", it means "disk I/O". As in, we are targeting real, physical or
network disk I/O. Of course, we can only do what's reasonable if the device
we're accounting for is layers upon layers eventually leading to a
memory-backed device, but _intentionally_ polluting that with more memory-bound
accesses doesn't make any sense when we already have separate accounting for
memory. Why would anyone want that?
I'm with Johannes here, I think this would actively make memory pressure
monitoring less useful. This is a NAK from my perspective as someone who
actually uses these things in production.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-12-08 17:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-12-01 10:59 [RFC PATCH] mm: count zram read/write into PSI_IO_WAIT Huangzhaoyang
2021-12-01 11:12 ` Zhaoyang Huang
2021-12-02 16:28 ` Johannes Weiner
2021-12-03 9:16 ` Zhaoyang Huang
2021-12-08 16:38 ` Johannes Weiner
2021-12-08 17:45 ` Chris Down [this message]
2021-12-08 17:47 ` Chris Down
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