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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Li RongQing <lirongqing@baidu.com>,
	vkuznets@redhat.com, wanpengli@tencent.com, jmattson@google.com,
	tglx@linutronix.de, bp@alien8.de, x86@kernel.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, joro@8bytes.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] KVM: X86: set vcpu preempted only if it is preempted
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 19:07:09 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Yd8m3SA/77LRKOJH@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7d96787e-d2e8-b4cd-c030-bcda3fe23e55@redhat.com>

On Wed, Jan 12, 2022, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On 1/12/22 18:30, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > > Uhhmm, why not? Who says the vcpu will run the moment it becomes
> > > runnable again? Another task could be woken up meanwhile occupying the
> > > real cpu.
> > Hrm, but when emulating HLT, e.g. for an idling vCPU, KVM will voluntarily schedule
> > out the vCPU and mark it as preempted from the guest's perspective.  The vast majority,
> > probably all, usage of steal_time.preempted expects it to truly mean "preempted" as
> > opposed to "not running".
> 
> I'm not sure about that.  In particular, PV TLB shootdown benefits from
> treating a halted vCPU as preempted, because it avoids wakeups of the halted
> vCPUs.

Ah, right.  But that really should be decoupled from steal_time.preempted.  KVM
can technically handle the PV TLB flush any time the vCPU exits, it's just a
question of whether the cost of writing guest memory outweighs the benefits of
potentially avoiding an IPI.  E.g. modifying KVM's fastpath exit loop to toggle
a flag and potentially handle PV TLB flushes is probably a bad idea, but setting
a flag immediately before static_call(kvm_x86_handle_exit)() may be a net win.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-12 19:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-12 12:02 [PATCH] KVM: X86: set vcpu preempted only if it is preempted Li RongQing
2022-01-12 13:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-01-12 17:30   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-01-12 18:44     ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-01-12 19:07       ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2022-01-12 21:31     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-01-13  4:52       ` 答复: " Li,Rongqing
2022-01-13  9:33         ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-01-13 11:55           ` 答复: " Li,Rongqing
2022-01-13 12:48         ` Wanpeng Li
2022-01-14  9:58           ` 答复: " Li,Rongqing
2022-01-13 16:34       ` Sean Christopherson
2022-02-06 11:23       ` 答复: " Li,Rongqing
2022-02-06 13:42       ` Li,Rongqing

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