From: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
To: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>
Cc: "Andy Lutomirski" <luto@amacapital.net>,
"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
"Will Deacon" <will@kernel.org>,
"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
"Waiman Long" <longman@redhat.com>,
"Sultan Alsawaf" <sultan@kerneltoast.com>,
"Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
"Andy Lutomirski" <luto@kernel.org>,
"Jonathan Neuschäfer" <j.neuschaefer@gmx.net>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] random: remove batched entropy locking
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2022 15:30:45 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Yf04lcQIatnGspAb@linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHmME9oOMhRVybTgHXT+oOXhMkdx7FVY7oSc-rHr=6AvZCVo=w@mail.gmail.com>
On 2022-02-04 15:11:34 [+0100], Jason A. Donenfeld wrote:
> Hi Sebastian,
Hi Jason,
> On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 3:02 PM Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
> <bigeasy@linutronix.de> wrote:
> > The commit in tree you cited is b43db859a36cb553102c9c80431fc44618703bda.
> > It does not mention anything regarding faster nor the performance
> > improvement and conditions (hoth path, etc). It still has a stable tag.
>
> It dropped the Cc: stable@. It still has the Fixes:. I can get rid of
> the Fixes: too. I'll improve that message a bunch for a potential v3.
Either you argue for bug fixing or performance improvement and I made it
clear that it is not bug fixing. That Fixes: tag is enough for Greg to
backport it.
> > > Maybe it'd be best to retain the spinlock_t, which will amount to
> > > disabling interrupts on !PREEMPT_RT, since it'll never be contended,
> > > but will turn into a mutex on PREEMPT_RT, where it'll do the right
> > > thing from an exclusivity perspective. Would this be reasonable?
> >
> > what does retain the spinlock_t mean since we already have a spinlock_t?
>
> The idea would be to keep using spinlock_t like we do now -- no change
> there -- but move to using this atomic generation counter so that
> there's never any contention. Actually, though, I worry that that
> approach would throw out the gains we're getting by chucking the
> spinlock in the first place.
It is a per-CPU spinlock_t so there should be no contention if there is
no cross-CPU access. The overhead are two atomic operations.
> What if we keep a spinlock_t there on PREEMPT_RT but stick with
> disabling interrupts on !PREEMPT_RT? I wish there was a solution or an
> API that amounted to the same thing so there wouldn't need to be an
> #ifdef, but I don't know what that'd be.
If it is still to much try to look for locallock_t and
local_lock_irqsave(). This is kind of like your local_irq_save() but
you have lockdep annotations and PREEMPT_RT has a spinlock_t like
behaviour. It also documents in-code what the scope of your locking is.
> Jason
Sebastian
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-02-04 14:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-01-27 22:21 "BUG: Invalid wait context" in invalidate_batched_entropy Jonathan Neuschäfer
2022-01-27 22:26 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-28 8:34 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-01-28 16:04 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-28 16:19 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-01-28 16:28 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-28 17:02 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-01-28 15:33 ` [PATCH] random: remove batched entropy locking Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-28 15:44 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-01-28 15:54 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-28 16:15 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-01-28 16:36 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-28 15:48 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-28 22:35 ` [PATCH v2] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-29 21:03 ` Jonathan Neuschäfer
2022-02-04 0:27 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-02-04 11:10 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-02-04 13:42 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-02-04 14:01 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-02-04 14:11 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-02-04 14:30 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior [this message]
2022-02-04 15:39 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-02-04 15:51 ` [PATCH v3] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-02-04 15:57 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-02-04 16:12 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-02-16 20:01 ` Jann Horn
2022-02-16 20:58 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-02-17 17:33 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-01-28 18:05 ` [PATCH] " Jonathan Neuschäfer
2022-01-29 18:22 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-29 7:10 ` [random] 1e1724f9dd: UBSAN:array-index-out-of-bounds_in_drivers/char/random.c kernel test robot
2022-01-29 7:10 ` kernel test robot
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