From: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
To: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: Oleksij Rempel <o.rempel@pengutronix.de>,
Oliver Neukum <oneukum@suse.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
kernel@pengutronix.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v1 1/1] usbnet: add devlink support
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2022 12:00:44 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YfLPvF6pmcL1UG2f@rowland.harvard.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YfJ+ceEzvzMM1JsW@kroah.com>
On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 12:13:53PM +0100, Greg KH wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 12:07:42PM +0100, Oleksij Rempel wrote:
> > The weakest link of usbnet devices is the USB cable.
>
> The weakest link of any USB device is the cable, why is this somehow
> special to usbnet devices?
>
> > Currently there is
> > no way to automatically detect cable related issues except of analyzing
> > kernel log, which would differ depending on the USB host controller.
> >
> > The Ethernet packet counter could potentially show evidence of some USB
> > related issues, but can be Ethernet related problem as well.
> >
> > To provide generic way to detect USB issues or HW issues on different
> > levels we need to make use of devlink.
>
> Please make this generic to all USB devices, usbnet is not special here
> at all.
Even more basic question: How is the kernel supposed to tell the
difference between a USB issue and a HW issue? That is, by what
criterion do you decide which category a particular issue falls under?
Alan Stern
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-01-27 17:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-01-27 11:07 [PATCH net-next v1 1/1] usbnet: add devlink support Oleksij Rempel
2022-01-27 11:13 ` Greg KH
2022-01-27 12:31 ` Oleksij Rempel
2022-01-27 13:22 ` Greg KH
2022-01-28 11:12 ` Oleksij Rempel
2022-01-28 11:23 ` Greg KH
2022-01-28 11:31 ` Oleksij Rempel
2022-02-02 9:14 ` Oliver Neukum
2022-01-27 17:00 ` Alan Stern [this message]
2022-01-28 11:27 ` Oleksij Rempel
2022-01-28 15:33 ` Alan Stern
2022-01-27 11:18 ` Greg KH
2022-01-27 11:19 ` Greg KH
2022-01-27 15:43 ` Andrew Lunn
2022-01-27 16:56 ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-01-27 19:59 ` kernel test robot
2022-01-27 19:59 ` kernel test robot
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