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From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Peter Krempa <pkrempa@redhat.com>
Cc: "Yang Zhong" <yang.zhong@intel.com>,
	"Jean-Philippe Brucker" <jean-philippe@linaro.org>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	libvir-list@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <f4bug@amsat.org>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Ani Sinha" <ani@anisinha.ca>,
	"Igor Mammedov" <imammedo@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/4] hw/i386: Attach CPUs to machine
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2022 10:06:48 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YgDvOATB5SOvS9pZ@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YgDoKlkP9Isdjnv8@angien.pipo.sk>

On Mon, Feb 07, 2022 at 10:36:42AM +0100, Peter Krempa wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 07, 2022 at 10:18:43 +0100, Igor Mammedov wrote:
> > On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 09:14:37 +0100
> > Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Sat,  5 Feb 2022 13:45:24 +0100
> > > Philippe Mathieu-Daudé <f4bug@amsat.org> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Previously CPUs were exposed in the QOM tree at a path
> > > > 
> > > >   /machine/unattached/device[nn]
> > > > 
> > > > where the 'nn' of the first CPU is usually zero, but can
> > > > vary depending on what devices were already created.
> > > > 
> > > > With this change the CPUs are now at
> > > > 
> > > >   /machine/cpu[nn]
> > > > 
> > > > where the 'nn' of the first CPU is always zero.  
> > > 
> > > Could you add to commit message the reason behind the change?
> > 
> > regardless, it looks like unwarranted movement to me
> > prompted by livirt accessing/expecting a QOM patch which is
> > not stable ABI. I'd rather get it fixed on libvirt side.
> > 
> > If libvirt needs for some reason access a CPU instance,
> > it should use @query-hotpluggable-cpus to get a list of CPUs
> > (which includes QOM path of already present CPUs) instead of
> > hard-codding some 'well-known' path as there is no any guarantee 
> > that it will stay stable whatsoever.
> 
> I don't disagree with you about the use of hardcoded path, but the way
> of using @query-hotpluggable-cpus is not really aligning well for how
> it's being used.
> 
> To shed a bit more light, libvirt uses the following hardcoded path
> 
> #define QOM_CPU_PATH  "/machine/unattached/device[0]"
> 
> in code which is used to query CPU flags. That code doesn't care at all
> which cpus are present but wants to get any of them. So yes, calling
> query-hotpluggable-cpus is possible but a bit pointless.
> 
> In general the code probing cpu flags via qom-get is very cumbersome as
> it ends up doing ~400 QMP calls at startup of a VM in cases when we deem
> it necessary to probe the cpu fully.

Yes, that's one QMP call per CPUID feature bit that QEMU knows
about. It is a massive performance bottleneck that we need a
much better solution for.  We really should have raised this
with QEMU right away when we found we had this need for 100's
of QMP commands.

Regards,
Daniel
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-02-07 10:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-05 12:45 [PATCH v4 0/4] hw/i386: QOM-attach CPUs/SGX-EPC objects to their parents Philippe Mathieu-Daudé via
2022-02-05 12:45 ` [PATCH v4 1/4] tests/qtest/acpi: Temporary allow VIOT table changes Philippe Mathieu-Daudé via
2022-02-05 12:45 ` [PATCH v4 2/4] hw/i386: Attach CPUs to machine Philippe Mathieu-Daudé via
2022-02-07  8:14   ` Igor Mammedov
2022-02-07  9:18     ` Igor Mammedov
2022-02-07  9:36       ` Peter Krempa
2022-02-07  9:41         ` Peter Krempa
2022-02-07 11:20           ` Ani Sinha
2022-02-07 11:28             ` Peter Krempa
2022-02-07 11:37               ` Ani Sinha
2022-02-07 10:06         ` Daniel P. Berrangé [this message]
2022-02-07 11:22         ` Igor Mammedov
2022-02-07 11:48           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-02-07 13:17             ` Igor Mammedov
2022-02-07 13:51             ` Peter Maydell
2022-02-05 12:45 ` [PATCH v4 3/4] tests/qtest/acpi: Update VIOT table blob Philippe Mathieu-Daudé via
2022-02-05 12:45 ` [PATCH v4 4/4] hw/i386/sgx: Attach SGX-EPC objects to machine Philippe Mathieu-Daudé via
2022-02-07  8:37   ` Igor Mammedov
2022-02-07  8:47     ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé via
2022-02-14  6:58     ` Yang Zhong
2022-02-14  8:21       ` Igor Mammedov
2022-02-14 10:30         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-02-16  9:01           ` Igor Mammedov
2022-02-14  7:27     ` Yang Zhong
2022-02-05 16:24 ` [PATCH v4 0/4] hw/i386: QOM-attach CPUs/SGX-EPC objects to their parents Philippe Mathieu-Daudé via

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