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From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: "Fam Zheng" <fam@euphon.net>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Denis V. Lunev" <den@openvz.org>,
	"Eric Blake" <eblake@redhat.com>,
	"Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito" <eesposit@redhat.com>,
	qemu-block@nongnu.org, "Juan Quintela" <quintela@redhat.com>,
	"Daniel Henrique Barboza" <danielhb413@gmail.com>,
	"Markus Armbruster" <armbru@redhat.com>,
	"Richard Henderson" <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
	"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	"Greg Kurz" <groug@kaod.org>, "Cédric Le Goater" <clg@kaod.org>,
	"Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	"John Snow" <jsnow@redhat.com>,
	"David Gibson" <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>,
	"Eduardo Habkost" <eduardo@habkost.net>,
	"Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy" <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com>,
	"Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <f4bug@amsat.org>,
	"Hanna Reitz" <hreitz@redhat.com>,
	qemu-ppc@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 02/33] include/block/block: split header into I/O and global state API
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2022 17:53:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YgFOeOocta+pPE/y@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bf72c7db-6f0a-e291-2f79-a061293dc810@redhat.com>

Am 01.02.2022 um 11:30 hat Paolo Bonzini geschrieben:
> On 2/1/22 10:45, Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito wrote:
> > > That said, even if they are a different category, I think it makes sense
> > > to leave them in the same header file as I/O functions, because I/O
> > > functions are locked out between drained_begin and drained_end.
> > 
> > Proposed category description:
> > /*
> >   * "Global OR I/O" API functions. These functions can run without
> >   * the BQL, but only in one specific iothread/main loop.
> >   *
> >   * More specifically, these functions use BDRV_POLL_WHILE(bs), which
> >   * requires the caller to be either in the main thread and hold
> >   * the BlockdriverState (bs) AioContext lock, or directly in the
> >   * home thread that runs the bs AioContext. Calling them from
> >   * another thread in another AioContext would cause deadlocks.
> >   *
> >   * Therefore, these functions are not proper I/O, because they
> >   * can't run in *any* iothreads, but only in a specific one.
> >   */
> > 
> > Functions that will surely go under this category:
> > 
> > BDRV_POLL_WHILE
> > bdrv_parent_drained_begin_single
> > bdrv_parent_drained_end_single
> > bdrv_drain_poll
> > bdrv_drained_begin
> > bdrv_do_drained_begin_quiesce
> > bdrv_subtree_drained_begin
> > bdrv_drained_end
> > bdrv_drained_end_no_poll
> > bdrv_subtree_drained_end
> > 
> > (all generated_co_wrapper)
> > bdrv_truncate
> > bdrv_check
> > bdrv_invalidate_cache
> > bdrv_flush
> > bdrv_pdiscard
> > bdrv_readv_vmstate
> > bdrv_writev_vmstate
> > 
> > 
> > What I am not sure:
> > 
> > * bdrv_drain_all_begin - bdrv_drain_all_end - bdrv_drain_all: these were
> > classified as GS, because thay are always called from the main loop.
> > Should they go in this new category?
> 
> 1) They look at the list of BDS's, and 2) you can't in general be sure that
> all BDS's are in *your* AioContext if you call them from a specific
> AioContext.
> 
> So they should be GS.

I agree, calling drain_all functions can only work from the main thread,
so they are GS.

> > * how should I interpret "all the callers of BDRV_POLL_WHILE"?
> > Meaning, if I consider also the callers of the callers, we end up
> > covering much much more functions. Should I only consider the direct
> > callers (ie the above)?
> 
> In general it is safe to make a function GS even if it is potentially "GS or
> I/O", because that _reduces_ the number of places you can call it from.
> It's likewise safe to make it I/O-only, but probably it makes less sense.

Basically, we have a hierarchy of categories where you can always call
functions in other categories with less restrictions, but never the
opposite direction.

1. Common functions
2. I/O functions
3. I/O or GS functions
4. GS functions

So common functions must never call any of the other categories. Global
state functions can call functions in any category. And "I/O or GS"
functions like BDRV_POLL_WHILE() can be called by other "I/O or GS" or
just GS functions, but if it's ever (directly or indirectly) called by
an I/O or common function, that would be a bug.

Kevin



  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-07 17:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-21 17:05 [PATCH v6 00/33] block layer: split block APIs in global state and I/O Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-01-21 17:05 ` [PATCH v6 01/33] main-loop.h: introduce qemu_in_main_thread() Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-01-27 10:56   ` Kevin Wolf
2022-01-31 11:25     ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-01-31 14:33       ` Kevin Wolf
2022-01-31 15:49         ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-02-01  9:08           ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-02-01 10:41             ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-02-01 11:55           ` Kevin Wolf
2022-02-01 12:10             ` Kevin Wolf
2022-01-21 17:05 ` [PATCH v6 02/33] include/block/block: split header into I/O and global state API Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-01-27 11:01   ` Kevin Wolf
2022-01-31 13:40     ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-01-31 14:54       ` Kevin Wolf
2022-01-31 15:58         ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-02-01  9:45           ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-02-01 10:30             ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-02-07 16:53               ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2022-02-08 10:50                 ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-01-21 17:05 ` [PATCH v6 03/33] assertions for block " Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-01-21 17:05 ` [PATCH v6 04/33] block/export/fuse.c: allow writable exports to take RESIZE permission Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-01-25 16:51   ` Hanna Reitz
2022-01-28 14:44     ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-01-21 17:05 ` [PATCH v6 05/33] include/sysemu/block-backend: split header into I/O and global state (GS) API Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-02-07 17:04   ` Kevin Wolf
2022-01-21 17:05 ` [PATCH v6 06/33] block/block-backend.c: assertions for block-backend Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-01-26  9:02   ` Hanna Reitz
2022-01-21 17:05 ` [PATCH v6 07/33] include/block/block_int: split header into I/O and global state API Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-01-21 17:05 ` [PATCH v6 08/33] assertions for block_int " Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-01-21 17:05 ` [PATCH v6 09/33] block: introduce assert_bdrv_graph_writable Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-02-07 17:14   ` Kevin Wolf
2022-01-21 17:05 ` [PATCH v6 10/33] include/block/blockjob_int.h: split header into I/O and GS API Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-01-21 17:05 ` [PATCH v6 11/33] assertions for blockjob_int.h Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-01-21 17:05 ` [PATCH v6 12/33] block.c: add assertions to static functions Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-01-21 17:05 ` [PATCH v6 13/33] include/block/blockjob.h: global state API Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-02-07 17:26   ` Kevin Wolf
2022-02-08 10:50     ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-01-21 17:05 ` [PATCH v6 14/33] assertions for blockjob.h " Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-01-21 17:05 ` [PATCH v6 15/33] include/sysemu/blockdev.h: " Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-01-21 17:05 ` [PATCH v6 16/33] assertions for blockdev.h " Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-01-21 17:05 ` [PATCH v6 17/33] include/block/snapshot: global state API + assertions Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-01-21 17:05 ` [PATCH v6 18/33] block/copy-before-write.h: " Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-01-21 17:05 ` [PATCH v6 19/33] block: introduce bdrv_activate Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-01-26 11:49   ` Hanna Reitz
2022-01-21 17:05 ` [PATCH v6 20/33] block: rename bdrv_invalidate_cache_all, blk_invalidate_cache and test_sync_op_invalidate_cache Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-01-24 10:44   ` Juan Quintela
2022-01-27  9:18     ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-01-31 15:59       ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-01-26 11:57   ` Hanna Reitz
2022-01-21 17:05 ` [PATCH v6 21/33] block: move BQL logic of bdrv_co_invalidate_cache in bdrv_activate Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-01-26 12:20   ` Hanna Reitz
2022-01-27 11:03   ` Kevin Wolf
2022-02-02 17:27     ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-02-02 18:27       ` Kevin Wolf
2022-01-21 17:05 ` [PATCH v6 22/33] block/coroutines: I/O API Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-02-07 17:36   ` Kevin Wolf
2022-01-21 17:05 ` [PATCH v6 23/33] block_int-common.h: split function pointers in BlockDriver Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-01-26 12:29   ` Hanna Reitz
2022-01-21 17:05 ` [PATCH v6 24/33] block_int-common.h: assertions in the callers of BlockDriver function pointers Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-01-21 17:05 ` [PATCH v6 25/33] block_int-common.h: split function pointers in BdrvChildClass Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-01-26 12:42   ` Hanna Reitz
2022-01-28 15:08     ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-01-21 17:05 ` [PATCH v6 26/33] block_int-common.h: assertions in the callers of BdrvChildClass function pointers Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-01-26 12:46   ` Hanna Reitz
2022-01-21 17:05 ` [PATCH v6 27/33] block-backend-common.h: split function pointers in BlockDevOps Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-01-21 17:05 ` [PATCH v6 28/33] job.h: split function pointers in JobDriver Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-01-21 17:05 ` [PATCH v6 29/33] job.h: assertions in the callers of JobDriver funcion pointers Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-01-26 14:13   ` Hanna Reitz
2022-01-28 15:19     ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-01-31  8:49       ` Hanna Reitz
2022-01-21 17:05 ` [PATCH v6 30/33] include/block/block_int-common.h: introduce bdrv_amend_pre_run and bdrv_amend_clean Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-01-26 14:54   ` Hanna Reitz
2022-01-21 17:05 ` [PATCH v6 31/33] include/qemu/job.h: introduce job->pre_run() and use it in amend Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-01-26 15:57   ` Hanna Reitz
2022-02-07 18:14   ` Kevin Wolf
2022-02-08 11:05     ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-01-21 17:05 ` [PATCH v6 32/33] crypto: delegate permission functions to JobDriver .pre_run Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-01-24 14:41   ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-01-26 16:10   ` Hanna Reitz
2022-01-28 16:57     ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-01-21 17:05 ` [PATCH v6 33/33] block.c: assertions to the block layer permissions API Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-02-07 18:30 ` [PATCH v6 00/33] block layer: split block APIs in global state and I/O Kevin Wolf
2022-02-08 11:42   ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-02-08 13:08     ` Kevin Wolf
2022-02-10 16:19       ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito

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