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From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito <eesposit@redhat.com>
Cc: Hanna Reitz <hreitz@redhat.com>,
	Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <v.sementsov-og@mail.ru>,
	John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-block@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] block/stream: Drain subtree around graph change
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2022 17:04:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YkxagL00suVaVipU@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87fb6a17-c1e8-cb50-5f0f-3979b8cc5ca6@redhat.com>

Am 05.04.2022 um 15:09 hat Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito geschrieben:
> Am 05/04/2022 um 12:14 schrieb Kevin Wolf:
> > I think all of this is really relevant for Emanuele's work, which
> > involves adding AIO_WAIT_WHILE() deep inside graph update functions. I
> > fully expect that we would see very similar problems, and just stacking
> > drain sections over drain sections that might happen to usually fix
> > things, but aren't guaranteed to, doesn't look like a good solution.
> 
> Yes, I think at this point we all agreed to drop subtree_drain as
> replacement for AioContext.
> 
> The alternative is what Paolo proposed in the other thread " Removal of
> AioContext lock, bs->parents and ->children: proof of concept"
> I am not sure which thread you replied first :)

This one, I think. :-)

> I think that proposal is not far from your idea, and it avoids to
> introduce or even use drains at all.
> Not sure why you called it a "step backwards even from AioContext locks".

I was only referring to the lock locality there. AioContext locks are
really coarse, but still a finer granularity than a single global lock.

In the big picture, it's still be better than the AioContext lock, but
that's because it's a different type of lock, not because it has better
locality.

So I was just wondering if we can't have the different type of lock and
make it local to the BDS, too.

Kevin



  reply	other threads:[~2022-04-05 15:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-24 12:57 [PATCH] block/stream: Drain subtree around graph change Hanna Reitz
2022-04-05 10:14 ` Kevin Wolf
2022-04-05 11:47   ` Hanna Reitz
2022-04-05 12:05     ` Hanna Reitz
2022-04-05 14:12     ` Kevin Wolf
2022-04-05 12:12   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2022-04-05 14:41     ` Kevin Wolf
2022-04-05 21:48       ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2022-04-05 13:09   ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-04-05 15:04     ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2022-04-05 17:53       ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-04-05 18:24         ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito

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