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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Mingwei Zhang <mizhang@google.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>,
	Wanpeng Li <wanpengli@tencent.com>,
	Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>, Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ben Gardon <bgardon@google.com>,
	David Matlack <dmatlack@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] KVM: x86/mmu: add lockdep check before lookup_address_in_mm()
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2022 14:08:20 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YmlOVNAQodY+5p/N@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAL715W+iZ+uwctT80pcsBrHsF96zWZMAfeVgvWcvvboLz0MkaQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Apr 26, 2022, Mingwei Zhang wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 6:30 PM Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 26, 2022, Mingwei Zhang wrote:
> > > On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 6:16 PM Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Apr 26, 2022, Mingwei Zhang wrote:
> > > > > > I completely agree that lookup_address() and friends are unnecessarily fragile,
> > > > > > but I think that attempting to harden them to fix this KVM bug will open a can
> > > > > > of worms and end up delaying getting KVM fixed.
> > > > >
> > > > > So basically, we need to:
> > > > >  - choose perf_get_page_size() instead of using any of the
> > > > > lookup_address*() in mm.
> > > > >  - add a wrapper layer to adapt: 1) irq disabling/enabling and 2) size
> > > > > -> level translation.
> > > > >
> > > > > Agree?
> > > >
> > > > Drat, I didn't see that it returns the page size, not the level.  That's a bit
> > > > unfortunate.  It definitely makes me less averse to fixing lookup_address_in_pgd()
> > > >
> > > > Hrm.  I guess since we know there's at least one broken user, and in theory
> > > > fixing lookup_address_in_pgd() should do no harm to users that don't need protection,
> > > > it makes sense to just fix lookup_address_in_pgd() and see if the x86 maintainers
> > > > push back.
> > >
> > > Yeah, fixing lookup_address_in_pgd() should be cleaner(), since the
> > > page fault usage case does not need irq save/restore. But the other
> > > one needs it. So, we can easily fix the function with READ_ONCE and
> > > lockless staff. But wrapping the function with irq save/restore from
> > > the KVM side.
> >
> > I think it makes sense to do the save/restore in lookup_address_in_pgd().  The
> > Those helpers are exported, so odds are good there are broken users that will
> > benefit from fixing all paths.
> 
> no, lookup_address_in_pgd() is probably just broken for KVM. In other
> call sites, some may already disable IRQ, so doing that again inside
> lookup_address_in_pgd() will be bad.

No, it's not bad.  local_irq_save/restore() intended preciesly for cases where
IRQs need to be disabled but IRQs may or may not have already been disabled by
the caller.   PUSHF+POPF is not expensive relatively speaking, 

> I am looking at here:
> https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/arch/arm/kernel/traps.c#L304

That's arm code, lookup_address_in_pgd() is x86 specific.  :-) That said, I'm sure
there exists at least one caller that runs with IRQs disabled.  But as above,
it's not a problem.

> so, the save/restore are done in oops_begin() and oops_end(), which is
> wrapping show_fault_oops() that calls lookup_address_in_pgd().
> 
> So, I think we need to ensure the READ_ONCE.
> 
> hmm, regarding the lockless macros, Paolo is right, for x86 it makes
> no difference. s390 seems to have a different implementation, but
> kvm_mmu_max_mapping_level() as well as host_pfn_mapping_level are both
> functions in x86 mmu.

Yep, all of this is x86 specific.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-04-27 14:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-27 20:58 [PATCH] KVM: x86/mmu: add lockdep check before lookup_address_in_mm() Mingwei Zhang
2022-03-28 15:16 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-03-28 17:41   ` Mingwei Zhang
2022-03-28 18:15     ` Sean Christopherson
2022-04-26 17:19       ` Mingwei Zhang
2022-04-26 17:49       ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-04-26 18:10         ` Sean Christopherson
2022-04-26 18:48           ` Mingwei Zhang
2022-04-27  1:16             ` Sean Christopherson
2022-04-27  1:24               ` Mingwei Zhang
2022-04-27  1:30                 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-04-27  2:56                   ` Mingwei Zhang
2022-04-27 14:08                     ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
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2022-03-27 20:35 Mingwei Zhang
2022-03-27 20:43 ` Mingwei Zhang

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