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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@intel.com>, Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
Cc: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@fb.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 5/5] x86/entry: Store CPU info on exception entry
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2022 13:03:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YvDtfKRyMGenRMU5@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YvAaXet3sBg3mRDe@iweiny-desk3>


* Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@intel.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Aug 07, 2022 at 12:35:03PM +0200, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> > On Sun, Aug 07, 2022 at 12:02:41PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > > * Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de> wrote:
> > > > With the amount of logical cores ever increasing and how CPU packages
> > > > (nodes, L3 sharing, you name it) get more and more complex topology,
> > > > I'd say the 2 insns to show the CPU number in every exception is a good
> > > > thing to do.
> > > 
> > > We can show it - I'm arguing against extracting it too early, which costs
> > 
> > Not early - more correct. We can say which CPU executed the exception
> > handler *exactly*. Not which CPU executed the exception handler *maybe*.
> > 
> > > us 2 instructions in the exception fast path
> > 
> > 2 insns? They don't matter at all. FWIW, they'll pull in the per-CPU
> > cacheline earlier which should be a net win later, for code which does
> > smp_processor_id().

I'd like to hear what Andy Lutomirski thinks about the notion that
"2 instructions don't matter at all" ...

Especially since it's now 4 instructions:

> I agree with Boris; however I feel that I have to mention that in patch 
> 3/5 you also have 1 instruction on each of entry and exit to push the 
> extra stack space.  So all told it would cost 4 instructions.

... 4 instructions in the exception path is a non-trivial impact.

> Again, I don't believe this is too much overhead but I don't want people 
> to say it was not discussed.

Is it necessary to do this, what are the alternatives, can this overhead be 
avoided?

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-08 11:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-05 17:30 [RFC PATCH 0/5] Print CPU at segfault time ira.weiny
2022-08-05 17:30 ` [RFC PATCH 1/5] entry: Pass pt_regs to irqentry_exit_cond_resched() ira.weiny
2022-08-05 18:33   ` Rik van Riel
2022-08-08 10:38   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-08-08 17:34     ` Ira Weiny
2022-08-08 17:38       ` Borislav Petkov
2022-08-08 17:43         ` Dave Hansen
2022-08-08 17:52           ` Borislav Petkov
2022-08-09 23:18     ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-08-10  7:25       ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-08-05 17:30 ` [RFC PATCH 2/5] entry: Add calls for save/restore auxiliary pt_regs ira.weiny
2022-08-05 18:34   ` Rik van Riel
2022-08-09 12:05   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-08-09 18:38     ` Ira Weiny
2022-08-09 18:49       ` Borislav Petkov
2022-08-09 21:14         ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-08-09 21:38           ` Borislav Petkov
2022-08-09 22:33             ` Ira Weiny
2022-08-09 21:49         ` Ira Weiny
2022-08-09 23:53           ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-08-05 17:30 ` [RFC PATCH 3/5] x86/entry: Add auxiliary pt_regs space ira.weiny
2022-08-05 18:45   ` Rik van Riel
2022-08-05 17:30 ` [RFC PATCH 4/5] x86,mm: print likely CPU at segfault time ira.weiny
2022-08-05 17:30 ` [RFC PATCH 5/5] x86/entry: Store CPU info on exception entry ira.weiny
2022-08-05 18:46   ` Rik van Riel
2022-08-05 18:47   ` Dave Hansen
2022-08-06  9:01     ` Ingo Molnar
2022-08-06  9:11       ` Borislav Petkov
2022-08-07 10:02         ` Ingo Molnar
2022-08-07 10:35           ` Borislav Petkov
2022-08-07 20:02             ` Ira Weiny
2022-08-08 11:03               ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2022-08-08 12:01                 ` Borislav Petkov
2022-08-09 20:06                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-08-08 16:16                 ` Dave Hansen
2022-08-08 17:24                   ` Rik van Riel
2022-08-09 21:19                   ` Andy Lutomirski

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