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From: Ashok Raj <ashok.raj@intel.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Tony Luck" <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	"LKML Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	X86-kernel <x86@kernel.org>,
	"Andy Lutomirski" <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>,
	Ashok Raj <ashok.raj@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/5] x86/microcode/intel: Allow a late-load only if a min rev is specified
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2022 12:29:11 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Yvo8F1YARZjJRW32@araj-dh-work> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Yvn5BNXfOm3uA7WA@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 09:43:00AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 13, 2022 at 10:38:23PM +0000, Ashok Raj wrote:
> 
> > The proposal here is an even simpler option. The criteria for a microcode to
> > be a viable late-load candidate is that no CPUID or OS visible MSR features
> > are removed with respect to an earlier version of the microcode.
> > 
> > Pseudocode for late-load is as follows:
> > 
> > if header.min_required_id == 0
> > 	This is old format microcode, block late-load
> > else if current_ucode_version < header.min_required_id
> > 	Current version is too old, block late-load of this microcode.
> > else
> > 	OK to proceed with late-load.
> 
> What about ucode that adds CPUID bits? Since the kernel will not re-init
> it will not pick up on those. But userspace might.
> 
> Should we at all time enable CPUID intercept to ensure user visible
> CPUID doesn't change?

The protection is to make sure any existing users won't experience a
feature pulled under their feet.

Using new features aren't dangerous though, and should be permitted.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-15 12:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-13 22:38 [PATCH 0/5] Adding more robustness to microcode loading Ashok Raj
2022-08-13 22:38 ` [PATCH 1/5] x86/microcode: Add missing documentation that late-load will taint kernel Ashok Raj
2022-08-15 19:40   ` [tip: x86/microcode] x86/microcode: Document the whole late loading problem tip-bot2 for Ashok Raj
2022-08-16  3:21     ` Ashok Raj
2022-08-16  7:40       ` Borislav Petkov
2022-08-16  6:51     ` Ingo Molnar
2022-08-16  7:46   ` tip-bot2 for Ashok Raj
2022-08-18 14:04   ` tip-bot2 for Ashok Raj
2022-08-13 22:38 ` [PATCH 2/5] x86/microcode/intel: Check against CPU signature before saving microcode Ashok Raj
2022-08-13 22:38 ` [PATCH 3/5] x86/microcode/intel: Allow a late-load only if a min rev is specified Ashok Raj
2022-08-15  7:43   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-08-15 12:29     ` Ashok Raj [this message]
2022-08-15  7:46   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-08-15 12:41     ` Ashok Raj
2022-08-15 13:04       ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-08-18 17:34     ` Dave Hansen
2022-08-13 22:38 ` [PATCH 4/5] x86/microcode: Avoid any chance of MCE's during microcode update Ashok Raj
2022-08-13 22:38 ` [PATCH 5/5] x86/microcode: Handle NMI's " Ashok Raj
2022-08-14  0:13   ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-08-14  1:19     ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-08-14  3:05       ` Ashok Raj
2022-08-14  2:54     ` Ashok Raj
2022-08-14 11:58       ` Andrew Cooper
2022-08-14 14:41         ` Ashok Raj

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