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From: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
To: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
Cc: Oleksij Rempel <o.rempel@pengutronix.de>,
	Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	kernel@pengutronix.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, David Jander <david@protonic.nl>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v1 2/7] dt-bindings: net: phy: add PoDL PSE property
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2022 21:34:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YwPaV2Frj+b++8hZ@lunn.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220822184534.GB113650-robh@kernel.org>

On Mon, Aug 22, 2022 at 01:45:34PM -0500, Rob Herring wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 02:01:04PM +0200, Oleksij Rempel wrote:
> > Add property to reference node representing a PoDL Power Sourcing Equipment.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Oleksij Rempel <o.rempel@pengutronix.de>
> > ---
> >  Documentation/devicetree/bindings/net/ethernet-phy.yaml | 6 ++++++
> >  1 file changed, 6 insertions(+)
> > 
> > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/net/ethernet-phy.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/net/ethernet-phy.yaml
> > index ed1415a4381f2..49c74e177c788 100644
> > --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/net/ethernet-phy.yaml
> > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/net/ethernet-phy.yaml
> > @@ -144,6 +144,12 @@ properties:
> >        Mark the corresponding energy efficient ethernet mode as
> >        broken and request the ethernet to stop advertising it.
> >  
> > +  ieee802.3-podl-pse:
> > +    $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/phandle
> > +    description:
> > +      Specifies a reference to a node representing a Power over Data Lines
> > +      Power Sourcing Equipment.
> 
> Ah, here is the consumer.
> 
> Why do you anything more than just a -supply property here for the 
> PoE/PoDL supply? The only reason I see is you happen to want a separate 
> driver for this and a separate node happens to be a convenient way to 
> instantiate drivers in Linux. Convince me otherwise.

The regulator binding provides a lot of very useful properties, which
look to do a good job describing the regulator part of a PoE/PeDL
supplier side. What however is missing is the communication part, the
power provider and the power consumer communicate with each other, via
a serial protocol. They negotiate the supply of power, a sleep mode
where power is reduced, but not removed, etc.

So a Power Sourcing Equipment driver is very likely to have a
regulator embedded in it, but its more than a regulator.

	 Andrew

  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-22 19:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-19 12:01 [PATCH net-next v1 0/7] add generic PSE support Oleksij Rempel
2022-08-19 12:01 ` [PATCH net-next v1 1/7] dt-bindings: net: pse-dt: add bindings for generic PSE controller Oleksij Rempel
2022-08-22 18:41   ` Rob Herring
2022-08-23 16:22     ` Oleksij Rempel
2022-08-19 12:01 ` [PATCH net-next v1 2/7] dt-bindings: net: phy: add PoDL PSE property Oleksij Rempel
2022-08-22 18:45   ` Rob Herring
2022-08-22 19:34     ` Andrew Lunn [this message]
2022-08-23 14:44       ` Oleksij Rempel
2022-08-19 12:01 ` [PATCH net-next v1 3/7] net: add framework to support Ethernet PSE and PDs devices Oleksij Rempel
2022-08-19 12:01 ` [PATCH net-next v1 4/7] net: pse-pd: add generic PSE driver Oleksij Rempel
2022-08-19 20:54   ` Andrew Lunn
2022-08-20 12:00     ` Oleksij Rempel
2022-08-19 21:32   ` Andrew Lunn
2022-08-20 12:10     ` Oleksij Rempel
2022-08-19 12:01 ` [PATCH net-next v1 5/7] net: mdiobus: fwnode_mdiobus_register_phy() rework error handling Oleksij Rempel
2022-08-19 12:01 ` [PATCH net-next v1 6/7] net: mdiobus: search for PSE nodes by parsing PHY nodes Oleksij Rempel
2022-08-19 12:01 ` [PATCH net-next v1 7/7] ethtool: add interface to interact with Ethernet Power Equipment Oleksij Rempel
2022-08-19 16:44   ` kernel test robot
2022-08-19 18:37   ` kernel test robot
2022-08-19 21:15   ` Andrew Lunn
2022-08-20 12:31     ` Oleksij Rempel
2022-08-20  3:08   ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-08-20 18:16   ` Andrew Lunn
2022-08-21  4:39     ` Oleksij Rempel
2022-08-20 18:48   ` Andrew Lunn

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