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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Wanpeng Li <wanpengli@tencent.com>,
	Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>,
	Michael Kelley <mikelley@microsoft.com>,
	Maxim Levitsky <mlevitsk@redhat.com>,
	linux-hyperv@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 3/6] KVM: x86: Hyper-V invariant TSC control
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2022 14:32:44 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Yyset3mEVytKdWd8@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87zgetnnf9.fsf@redhat.com>

On Wed, Sep 21, 2022, Vitaly Kuznetsov wrote:
> Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com> writes:
> > It's still not obvious to me why KVM shouldn't do:
> >
> > 	if (!hv_vcpu)
> > 		return false;
> >
> > 	return !(hv_vcpu->cpuid_cache.features_eax & HV_ACCESS_TSC_INVARIANT) ||
> > 	       !(to_kvm_hv(vcpu->kvm)->hv_invtsc_control & HV_INVARIANT_TSC_EXPOSED);
> >
> > I.e. why is invariant TSC _not_ suppressed on Hyper-V by default?
> 
> In case we switch to suppressing invtsc (CPUID.80000007H:EDX[8]) by
> default, i.e. when HV_ACCESS_TSC_INVARIANT was not set in guest visible
> CPUIDs, this is going to be a behavioral change for the already existing
> configurations and we certainly don't want that. It was expirementally
> proven that at least some Windows versions are perfectly happy when they
> see invtsc without this PV feature so I don't see a need to break the
> status quo.
> 
> this is VMM's job, not KVM's. 

Gotcha.  Can you add a comment to capture this?  In particular, the part about it
being KVM's responsibility iff the Hyper-V control is exposed to the guest.

Hmm, and I think it makes to repackage the code so that the "is KVM responsible"
check is separated from the "is the control enabled".  E.g.

	/*
	 * If Hyper-V's invariant TSC control is exposed to the guest, KVM is
	 * responsible for suppressing the invariant TSC CPUID flag if the
	 * Hyper-V control is not enabled.
	 */
	if (!hv_vcpu ||
	    !(hv_vcpu->cpuid_cache.features_eax & HV_ACCESS_TSC_INVARIANT))
		return false;

	return !(to_kvm_hv(vcpu->kvm)->hv_invtsc_control & HV_INVARIANT_TSC_EXPOSED);

  reply	other threads:[~2022-09-21 14:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-16 13:51 [PATCH v3 0/6] KVM: x86: Hyper-V invariant TSC control feature Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-09-16 13:52 ` [PATCH v3 1/6] x86/hyperv: Add HV_INVARIANT_TSC_EXPOSED define Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-09-16 13:52 ` [PATCH v3 2/6] KVM: x86: Introduce CPUID_8000_0007_EDX 'scattered' leaf Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-09-20 22:52   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-09-21  8:17     ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-09-16 13:52 ` [PATCH v3 3/6] KVM: x86: Hyper-V invariant TSC control Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-09-20 23:03   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-09-21  8:26     ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-09-21 14:32       ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2022-09-16 13:52 ` [PATCH v3 4/6] KVM: selftests: Rename 'msr->availble' to 'msr->fault_exepected' in hyperv_features test Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-09-16 13:52 ` [PATCH v3 5/6] KVM: selftests: Convert hyperv_features test to using KVM_X86_CPU_FEATURE() Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-09-16 13:52 ` [PATCH v3 6/6] KVM: selftests: Test Hyper-V invariant TSC control Vitaly Kuznetsov

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