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From: Chih-En Lin <shiyn.lin@gmail.com>
To: Nadav Amit <namit@vmware.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 9/9] mm: Introduce Copy-On-Write PTE table
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2022 03:53:39 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YzNUwxU44mq+KnCm@strix-laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3D21021E-490F-4FE0-9C75-BB3A46A66A26@vmware.com>

On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 06:38:05PM +0000, Nadav Amit wrote:
> I only skimmed the patches that you sent. The last couple of patches seem a
> bit rough and dirty, so I am sorry to say that I skipped them (too many
> “TODO” and “XXX” for my taste).
> 
> I am sure other will have better feedback than me. I understand there is a
> tradeoff and that this mechanism is mostly for high performance
> snapshotting/forking. It would be beneficial to see whether this mechanism
> can somehow be combined with existing ones (mshare?).

Still thanks for your feedback. :)
I'm looking at the PTE refcount and mshare patches. And, maybe it can
combine with them in the future.

> The code itself can be improved. I found the reasoning about synchronization
> and TLB flushes and synchronizations to be lacking, and the code to seem
> potentially incorrect. Better comments would help, even if the code is
> correct.
> 
> There are additional general questions. For instance, when sharing a
> page-table, do you properly update the refcount/mapcount of the mapped
> pages? And are there any possible interactions with THP?

Since access to those mapped pages will cost a lot of time, and this
will make fork() even have more overhead. It will not update the
refcount/mapcount of the mapped pages.

I'm not familiar with THP right now. But we have a plan for looking
at it to see what will happen with COW PTE.
Currently, I can only say that I prefer to avoid involving the behavior
of huge-page/THP. If there are any ideas here please tell us.

Thanks,
Chih-En Lin


  reply	other threads:[~2022-09-27 19:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-27 16:29 [RFC PATCH v2 0/9] Introduce Copy-On-Write to Page Table Chih-En Lin
2022-09-27 16:29 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/9] mm: Add new mm flags for Copy-On-Write PTE table Chih-En Lin
2022-09-27 17:23   ` Nadav Amit
2022-09-27 17:36     ` Chih-En Lin
2022-09-27 16:29 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/9] mm: pgtable: Add sysctl to enable COW PTE Chih-En Lin
2022-09-27 17:27   ` Nadav Amit
2022-09-27 18:05     ` Chih-En Lin
2022-09-27 21:22   ` John Hubbard
2022-09-28  8:36     ` Chih-En Lin
2022-09-27 16:29 ` [RFC PATCH v2 3/9] mm, pgtable: Add ownership to PTE table Chih-En Lin
2022-09-27 17:30   ` Nadav Amit
2022-09-27 18:23     ` Chih-En Lin
2022-09-27 16:29 ` [RFC PATCH v2 4/9] mm: Add COW PTE fallback functions Chih-En Lin
2022-09-27 17:51   ` Nadav Amit
2022-09-27 19:00     ` Chih-En Lin
2022-09-27 16:29 ` [RFC PATCH v2 5/9] mm, pgtable: Add a refcount to PTE table Chih-En Lin
2022-09-27 17:59   ` Nadav Amit
2022-09-27 19:07     ` Chih-En Lin
2022-09-27 16:29 ` [RFC PATCH v2 6/9] mm, pgtable: Add COW_PTE_OWNER_EXCLUSIVE flag Chih-En Lin
2022-09-27 16:29 ` [RFC PATCH v2 7/9] mm: Add the break COW PTE handler Chih-En Lin
2022-09-27 18:15   ` Nadav Amit
2022-09-27 19:23     ` Chih-En Lin
2022-09-27 16:29 ` [RFC PATCH v2 8/9] mm: Handle COW PTE with reclaim algorithm Chih-En Lin
2022-09-27 16:29 ` [RFC PATCH v2 9/9] mm: Introduce Copy-On-Write PTE table Chih-En Lin
2022-09-27 18:38   ` Nadav Amit
2022-09-27 19:53     ` Chih-En Lin [this message]
2022-09-27 21:26       ` John Hubbard
2022-09-28  8:52         ` Chih-En Lin
2022-09-28 14:03       ` David Hildenbrand
2022-09-29 13:38         ` Chih-En Lin
2022-09-29 13:49           ` Chih-En Lin
2022-09-29 17:24           ` David Hildenbrand
2022-09-29 18:29             ` Chih-En Lin
2022-09-29 18:38               ` David Hildenbrand
2022-09-29 18:57                 ` Chih-En Lin
2022-09-29 19:00                   ` David Hildenbrand
2022-09-29 18:40               ` Nadav Amit
2022-09-29 19:02                 ` Chih-En Lin

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