From: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
To: Alexander Duyck <alexander.duyck@gmail.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, andrew@lunn.ch, hkallweit1@gmail.com,
davem@davemloft.net, kuba@kernel.org, pabeni@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [net-next PATCH 2/2] net: phylink: Fix issues with link balancing w/ BMC present
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2025 18:12:00 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z//k4PUTWXo3+IBh@shell.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z__URcfITnra19xy@shell.armlinux.org.uk>
On Wed, Apr 16, 2025 at 05:01:09PM +0100, Russell King (Oracle) wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 16, 2025 at 08:29:00AM -0700, Alexander Duyck wrote:
> > From: Alexander Duyck <alexanderduyck@fb.com>
> >
> > This change is meant to address the fact that there are link imbalances
> > introduced when using phylink on a system with a BMC. Specifically there
> > are two issues.
> >
> > The first issue is that if we lose link after the first call to
> > phylink_start but before it gets to the phylink_resolve we will end up with
> > the phylink interface assuming the link was always down and not calling
> > phylink_link_down resulting in a stuck interface.
>
> That is intentional.
>
> phylink strictly orders .mac_link_down and .mac_link_up, and starts from
> an initial position that the link _will_ be considered to be down. So,
> it is intentional that .mac_link_down will _never_ be called after
> phylink_start().
>
> > The second issue is that when a BMC is present we are currently forcing the
> > link down. This results in us bouncing the link for a fraction of a second
> > and that will result in dropped packets for the BMC.
>
> ... but you don't explain how that happens.
>
> > The third issue is just an extra "Link Down" message that is seen when
> > calling phylink_resume. This is addressed by identifying that the link
> > isn't balanced and just not displaying the down message in such a case.
>
> Hmm, this one is an error, but is not as simple as "don't print the
> message" as it results in a violation of the rule I mentioned above.
> We need phylink_suspend() to record the state of the link at that
> point, and avoid calling phylink_link_down() if the link was down
> prior to suspend.
Okay, confirmed on nvidia Jetson Xavier NX:
[ 11.838132] dwc-eth-dwmac 2490000.ethernet eth0: Adding VLAN ID 0 is not supported
[ 15.299757] dwc-eth-dwmac 2490000.ethernet eth0: Link is Up - 1Gbps/Full - flow control rx/tx
LAN cable was unplugged:
[ 50.436587] dwc-eth-dwmac 2490000.ethernet eth0: Link is Down
Then the system was suspended using rtcwake for 3 seconds:
[ 54.736849] dwc-eth-dwmac 2490000.ethernet eth0: No Safety Features support found
[ 54.736898] dwc-eth-dwmac 2490000.ethernet eth0: IEEE 1588-2008 Advanced Timestamp supported
[ 54.741078] dwc-eth-dwmac 2490000.ethernet eth0: Link is Down
This shouldn't happen. With the patch I posted, this second "Link is Down"
message is not printed, and .mac_link_down() will not be called.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-04-16 17:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-04-16 15:28 [net-next PATCH 0/2] net: phylink: Fix issue w/ BMC link flap Alexander Duyck
2025-04-16 15:28 ` [net-next PATCH 1/2] net: phylink: Drop unused defines for SUPPORTED/ADVERTISED_INTERFACES Alexander Duyck
2025-04-22 8:32 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-04-16 15:29 ` [net-next PATCH 2/2] net: phylink: Fix issues with link balancing w/ BMC present Alexander Duyck
2025-04-16 16:01 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-04-16 16:16 ` [PATCH net] net: phylink: fix suspend/resume with WoL enabled and link down Russell King (Oracle)
2025-04-16 17:14 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-04-17 14:30 ` Alexander H Duyck
2025-04-17 14:35 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-04-17 15:23 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-04-17 17:06 ` Alexander Duyck
2025-04-17 17:27 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-04-17 19:49 ` Alexander Duyck
2025-04-22 9:51 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-04-22 15:30 ` Alexander Duyck
2025-04-22 16:00 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-04-22 20:09 ` Alexander Duyck
2025-04-23 0:00 ` patchwork-bot+netdevbpf
2025-04-16 17:12 ` Russell King (Oracle) [this message]
2025-04-16 19:03 ` [net-next PATCH 2/2] net: phylink: Fix issues with link balancing w/ BMC present Alexander Duyck
2025-04-16 19:19 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-04-16 20:05 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-04-16 22:58 ` Alexander Duyck
2025-04-19 18:11 ` [net-next PATCH 0/2] net: phylink: Fix issue w/ BMC link flap Andrew Lunn
2025-04-20 18:18 ` Alexander Duyck
2025-04-20 21:58 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-04-21 15:51 ` Alexander Duyck
2025-04-21 16:50 ` Alexander Duyck
2025-04-22 1:21 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-04-22 13:49 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-04-22 15:28 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-04-22 16:49 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-04-22 17:30 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-04-22 18:13 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-04-22 18:50 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-04-22 23:51 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-04-22 21:29 ` Alexander Duyck
2025-04-22 22:26 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-04-22 23:06 ` Alexander Duyck
2025-04-23 18:38 ` Alexander Duyck
2025-04-24 20:34 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-04-24 23:40 ` Alexander Duyck
2025-04-25 13:11 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-04-25 15:41 ` Alexander Duyck
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