From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Cc: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com>,
Harry Yoo <harry.yoo@oracle.com>, Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>,
joel.granados@kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: kvmalloc: make kmalloc fast path real fast path
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2025 10:59:48 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z-5OBJrdjDBj_nrr@tiehlicka> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ad7b308e-64aa-4bd4-be1c-fbcdd02a0f10@suse.cz>
On Thu 03-04-25 10:24:56, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
[...]
> - to replace xlog_kvmalloc(), we need to deal with kvmalloc() passing
> VM_ALLOW_HUGE_VMAP, so we don't end up with GFP_KERNEL huge allocation
> anyway (in practice maybe it wouldn't happen because "size >= PMD_SIZE"
> required for the huge vmalloc is never true for current xlog_kvmalloc()
> users but dunno if we can rely on that).
I would just make that its own patch. Ideally with some numbers showing
there are code paths benefiting from the change.
> Maybe it's a bad idea to use VM_ALLOW_HUGE_VMAP in kvmalloc() anyway? Since
> we're in a vmalloc fallback which means the huge allocations failed anyway
> for the kmalloc() part. Maybe there's some grey area where it makes sense,
> with size much larger than PMD_SIZE, e.g. exceeding MAX_PAGE_ORDER where we
> can't kmalloc() anyway so at least try to assemble the allocation from huge
> vmalloc. Maybe tie it to such a size check, or require __GFP_RETRY_MAYFAIL
> to activate VM_ALLOW_HUGE_VMAP?
We didn't have that initially. 9becb6889130 ("kvmalloc: use vmalloc_huge
for vmalloc allocations") has added it. I thought large allocations are
very optimistic (ie. NOWAIT like) but that doesn't seem to be the case.
As said above, I would just change that after we have any numbers to
support the removal.
> - we're still not addressing the original issue of high kcompactd activity,
> but maybe the answer is that it needs to be investigated more (why deferred
> compaction doesn't limit it) instead of trying to suppress it from kvmalloc()
yes this seems like something that should be investigated on the
compaction side.
Thanks!
--
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-04-03 8:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-04-01 7:30 [PATCH] proc: Avoid costly high-order page allocations when reading proc files Yafang Shao
2025-04-01 14:01 ` Kees Cook
2025-04-01 14:50 ` Yafang Shao
2025-04-02 4:15 ` Harry Yoo
2025-04-02 8:42 ` Yafang Shao
2025-04-02 9:25 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-04-02 12:17 ` Michal Hocko
2025-04-02 18:25 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-04-02 11:32 ` Dave Chinner
2025-04-02 12:24 ` Michal Hocko
2025-04-02 17:24 ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-04-02 18:30 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-04-02 22:38 ` Dave Chinner
2025-04-02 21:16 ` Dave Chinner
2025-04-02 23:10 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-04-03 1:22 ` Dave Chinner
2025-04-03 3:32 ` Yafang Shao
2025-04-03 5:05 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-04-03 7:20 ` Michal Hocko
2025-04-03 4:37 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-04-03 7:22 ` Michal Hocko
2025-04-03 7:43 ` [PATCH] mm: kvmalloc: make kmalloc fast path real fast path Michal Hocko
2025-04-03 8:24 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-04-03 8:59 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2025-04-03 16:21 ` Kees Cook
2025-04-03 19:49 ` Michal Hocko
2025-04-04 15:33 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-04-03 18:30 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-04-03 19:51 ` Michal Hocko
2025-04-09 1:10 ` Dave Chinner
2025-06-04 18:42 ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-04-09 7:35 ` Michal Hocko
2025-04-09 9:11 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-04-09 12:20 ` Michal Hocko
2025-04-09 12:23 ` Vlastimil Babka
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