From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-tip-commits@vger.kernel.org,
Shrikanth Hegde <sshegde@linux.ibm.com>,
Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
x86@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] bug: Add the condition string to the CONFIG_DEBUG_BUGVERBOSE=y output
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2025 08:42:27 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z-Ov478wdBKpqtmA@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wjMu5iGZ2ifBqjzV4a993D13OnDvfbtYe6jgPP8cZnAGQ@mail.gmail.com>
* Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 at 15:42, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > So something like the patch below?
> > [...]
> > After:
> >
> > WARNING: CPU: 0 PID: 0 at [ptr == 0 && 1] kernel/sched/core.c:8511 sched_init+0x20/0x410
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> Hmm. Is that the prettiest output ever? No. But it does seem workable,
> and the patch is simple.
>
> And I think the added condition string is useful, in that I often end
> up looking up warnings that other people report and where the line
> numbers have changed enough that it's not immediately obvious exactly
> which warning it is. Not only does it disambiguate which warning it
> is, it would probably often would obviate having to look it up
> entirely because the warning message is now more useful.
Yeah, that exactly was the original motivation for SCHED_WARN_ON():
core kernel code often gets backported on and changed by distributions,
so line numbers are fuzzy and with large functions it's sometimes
unclear exactly where the warning originated from.
> So I think I like it. Let's see how it works in practice.
>
> (I actually think the "CPU: 0 PID: 0" is likely the least useful part
> of that warning string, and maybe *that* should be moved away and
> make things a bit more legible, but I think that discussion might as
> well be part of that "Let's see how it works")
Okay!
The CPU and PID part is particularly useless, given that it's repeated
in the splat a few lines later:
------------[ cut here ]------------^M
WARNING: CPU: 0 PID: 0 at [ptr == 0 && 1] kernel/sched/core.c:8511 sched_init+0x20/0x410
Modules linked in:
CPU: 0 UID: 0 PID: 0 Comm: swapper Not tainted 6.14.0-01616-g94d7af2844aa #4 PREEMPT(undef)
Hardware name: QEMU Standard PC (Q35 + ICH9, 2009), BIOS 1.16.3-debian-1.16.3-2 04/01/2014
RIP: 0010:sched_init+0x20/0x410
So I'll just remove it, which will turn this into:
WARNING: [ptr == 0 && 1] kernel/sched/core.c:8511 sched_init+0x20/0x410
Which is actually pretty nicely formatted IMHO and orders the
information by expected entropy: most constant, most valuable
information comes first.
BTW., there's also another option we still have open: by using a unique
character separator that isn't 0 we could split up the single string
into cond_str and FILE_str parts, and leave formatting to
architectures. But I don't think it's needed if we get rid of the "CPU:
PID:" noise though.
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-03-26 7:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-03-17 10:42 [PATCH 0/5] sched: Make CONFIG_SCHED_DEBUG features unconditional Ingo Molnar
2025-03-17 10:42 ` [PATCH 1/5] sched/debug: Change SCHED_WARN_ON() to WARN_ON_ONCE() Ingo Molnar
2025-03-20 9:00 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Ingo Molnar
2025-03-24 11:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-03-25 9:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-25 11:18 ` [PATCH] bug: Introduce CONFIG_DEBUG_BUGVERBOSE_EXTRA=y to also log warning conditions Ingo Molnar
2025-03-25 12:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-03-25 17:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-25 18:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-03-25 22:42 ` [PATCH] bug: Add the condition string to the CONFIG_DEBUG_BUGVERBOSE=y output Ingo Molnar
2025-03-25 23:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-26 7:42 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2025-03-17 10:42 ` [PATCH 2/5] sched/debug: Make 'const_debug' tunables unconditional __read_mostly Ingo Molnar
2025-03-20 9:00 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Ingo Molnar
2025-03-17 10:42 ` [PATCH 3/5] sched/debug: Make CONFIG_SCHED_DEBUG functionality unconditional Ingo Molnar
2025-03-20 9:00 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Ingo Molnar
2025-03-17 10:42 ` [PATCH 4/5] sched/debug, Documentation: Remove (most) CONFIG_SCHED_DEBUG references from documentation Ingo Molnar
2025-03-20 9:00 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Ingo Molnar
2025-03-17 10:42 ` [PATCH 5/5] sched/debug: Remove CONFIG_SCHED_DEBUG Ingo Molnar
2025-03-20 8:59 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Ingo Molnar
2025-03-24 11:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-03-17 21:39 ` [PATCH 0/5] sched: Make CONFIG_SCHED_DEBUG features unconditional Linus Torvalds
2025-03-17 22:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-17 22:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-19 8:49 ` Valentin Schneider
2025-03-19 21:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-19 12:48 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-03-19 21:14 ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-20 4:41 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-03-20 9:00 ` [tip: sched/core] sched/debug: Remove CONFIG_SCHED_DEBUG from self-test config files tip-bot2 for Ingo Molnar
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