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From: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@kernel.org>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
Cc: Sumit Garg <sumit.garg@kernel.org>,
	Stefano Garzarella <sgarzare@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Peter Huewe <peterhuewe@gmx.de>,
	linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
	Jens Wiklander <jens.wiklander@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] tpm/tpm_ftpm_tee: use send_recv() op
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2025 22:37:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z-RlbEN9BoKnTN2E@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z-QkGUenPAMid63l@kernel.org>

On Wed, Mar 26, 2025 at 05:58:33PM +0200, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 26, 2025 at 04:57:47PM +0200, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 26, 2025 at 11:34:01AM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > > On Wed, Mar 26, 2025 at 02:11:12PM +0200, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Generally speaking I don't see enough value in complicating
> > > > callback interface. It's better to handle complications in
> > > > the leaves (i.e. dictatorship of majority ;-) ).
> > > 
> > > That is very much not the way most driver subsystems view the
> > > world. We want to pull logical things into the core code and remove
> > > them from drivers to make the drivers simpler and more robust.
> > > 
> > > The amount of really dumb driver boiler plate that this series
> > > obviously removes is exactly the sort of stuff we should be fixing by
> > > improving the core code.
> > > 
> > > The callback interface was never really sanely designed, it was just
> > > built around the idea of pulling the timout processing into the core
> > > code for TIS hardware. It should be revised to properly match these
> > > new HW types that don't have this kind of timeout mechanism.
> > 
> > Both TIS and CRB, which are TCG standards and they span to many
> > different types of drivers and busses. I don't have the figures but
> > probably they cover vast majority of the hardware.
> > 
> > We are talking about 39 lines of reduced complexity at the cost
> > of complicating branching at the top level. I doubt that there
> > is either any throughput or latency issues.
> > 
> > What is measurable benefit? The rationale is way way too abstract
> > for me to cope, sorry.
> 
> E.g., here's how you can get rid of extra cruft in tpm_ftpm_tee w/o
> any new callbacks.

Measurable benefit: no need to allocate memory buffer.

Let's take that as a starting point ;-)

On that basis I can consider this (i.e. something to measure).

BR, Jarkko

  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-26 20:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-20 15:24 [PATCH 0/2] tpm: add send_recv() op and use it in tpm_ftpm_tee driver Stefano Garzarella
2025-03-20 15:24 ` [PATCH 1/2] tpm: add send_recv() op in tpm_class_ops Stefano Garzarella
2025-03-26 16:53   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-03-27  9:48     ` Stefano Garzarella
2025-03-27 13:02       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-03-27 14:44         ` Stefano Garzarella
2025-03-20 15:24 ` [PATCH 2/2] tpm/tpm_ftpm_tee: use send_recv() op Stefano Garzarella
2025-03-25  5:19   ` Sumit Garg
2025-03-26 12:11     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-03-26 14:34       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-26 14:57         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-03-26 15:58           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-03-26 20:37             ` Jarkko Sakkinen [this message]
2025-03-27  9:27               ` Stefano Garzarella
2025-03-27 13:04                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen

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