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From: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@kernel.org>
To: "Reshetova, Elena" <elena.reshetova@intel.com>
Cc: "Hansen, Dave" <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	"linux-sgx@vger.kernel.org" <linux-sgx@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"Mallick, Asit K" <asit.k.mallick@intel.com>,
	"Scarlata, Vincent R" <vincent.r.scarlata@intel.com>,
	"Cai, Chong" <chongc@google.com>,
	"Aktas, Erdem" <erdemaktas@google.com>,
	"Annapurve, Vishal" <vannapurve@google.com>,
	"dionnaglaze@google.com" <dionnaglaze@google.com>,
	"bondarn@google.com" <bondarn@google.com>,
	"Raynor, Scott" <scott.raynor@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] x86/sgx: Implement EUPDATESVN and opportunistically call it during first EPC page alloc
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2025 17:29:45 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z-v4WfcLhmXbYvaa@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DM8PR11MB5750A46718F899A43C52A984E7AC2@DM8PR11MB5750.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

On Tue, Apr 01, 2025 at 09:35:33AM +0000, Reshetova, Elena wrote:
> > > None of these exceptional conditions are fatal or present an
> > > immediate danger to the system security. So, allowing the re-tries
> > > seems logical in this case. In case re-tries also fail, the system
> > > admin will have an option of gracefully shutting down all enclaves
> > > and doing either a full reboot (if SVN is the only concern) or other
> > > necessary actions like taking the physical node out of use, etc.
> > >
> > > Does this sound reasonable?
> > 
> > Uknown error I don't think would hold that premise.
> 
> True, unknown is an unknown ))
> But unknown errors should not happen (per SGX spec), and the

Thus if for some reason unknown error code would be returned something
would be horribly wrong (e.g. bad emulation of the opcode or who knows
what) and thus it would make sense disable the driver if this happens.

Or maybe even BUG_ON() in this situation?

> current SGX kernel code does not handle such errors in any other way
> than notifying that operation failed for other ENCLS leaves. So, I don't
> see why ENCLS[EUPDATESVN] should be different from existing behaviour?

While not disagreeing fully (it depends on call site), in some
situations it is more difficult to take more preventive actions.

This is a situation where we know that there are *zero* EPC pages in
traffic so it is relatively easy to stop the madness, isn't it?

I guess the best action would be make sgx_alloc_epc_page() return
consistently -ENOMEM, if the unexpected happens.

/* <- this
 * Do not execute ENCLS[EUPDATESVN] if running in a VM since
 * microcode updates are only meaningful to be applied on the host.
 */

According to https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/kernel-doc-nano-HOWTO.txt

> 
> Best Regards,
> Elena.
> 
> 

BR, Jarkko

  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-01 14:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-28 12:57 [PATCH v2 0/2] Enable automatic SVN updates for SGX enclaves Elena Reshetova
2025-03-28 12:57 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] x86/sgx: Use sgx_nr_used_pages for EPC page count instead of sgx_nr_free_pages Elena Reshetova
2025-03-28 12:57 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] x86/sgx: Implement EUPDATESVN and opportunistically call it during first EPC page alloc Elena Reshetova
2025-03-28 17:50   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-03-28 18:06     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-03-31  7:26       ` Reshetova, Elena
2025-03-31 17:46         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-04-01  9:35           ` Reshetova, Elena
2025-04-01 14:29             ` Jarkko Sakkinen [this message]
2025-04-02 13:11               ` Reshetova, Elena
2025-04-03 19:12                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-04-04  6:53                   ` Reshetova, Elena
2025-04-04  7:48                     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-04-07  8:23                       ` Reshetova, Elena
2025-04-08  0:06                         ` Huang, Kai
2025-04-08  6:40                           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-04-08  6:42                             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-04-08  6:54                               ` Reshetova, Elena
2025-04-08 15:27                                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-04-14  7:56                                   ` Reshetova, Elena

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