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From: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
To: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>, Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>
Cc: Alexandre Torgue <alexandre.torgue@foss.st.com>,
	Andrew Lunn <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
	Bryan Whitehead <bryan.whitehead@microchip.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Florian Fainelli <florian.fainelli@broadcom.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	Jose Abreu <joabreu@synopsys.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-stm32@st-md-mailman.stormreply.com,
	Marcin Wojtas <marcin.s.wojtas@gmail.com>,
	Maxime Coquelin <mcoquelin.stm32@gmail.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, Oleksij Rempel <o.rempel@pengutronix.de>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	UNGLinuxDriver@microchip.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC net-next 00/23] net: phylink managed EEE support
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2024 13:01:11 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z0XGl0caztvVarmZ@shell.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z0XEWGqLJ8okNSIr@shell.armlinux.org.uk>

On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 12:51:36PM +0000, Russell King (Oracle) wrote:
> Patch 11 adds phylink managed EEE support. Two new MAC APIs are added,
> to enable and disable LPI. The enable method is passed the LPI timer
> setting which it is expected to program into the hardware, and also a
> flag ehther the transmit clock should be stopped.
> 
>  *** There are open questions here. Eagle eyed reviewers will notice
>    pl->config->lpi_interfaces. There are MACs out there which only
>    support LPI signalling on a subset of their interface types. Phylib
>    doesn't understand this. I'm handling this at the moment by simply
>    not activating LPI at the MAC, but that leads to ethtool --show-eee
>    suggesting that EEE is active when it isn't.
>  *** Should we pass the phy_interface_t to these functions?
>  *** Should mac_enable_tx_lpi() be allowed to fail if the MAC doesn't
>    support the interface mode?

There is another point to raise here - should we have a "validate_eee"
method in struct phylink_mac_ops so that MAC drivers can validate
settings such as the tx_lpi_timer value can be programmed into the
hardware?

We do have the situation on Marvell platforms where the programmed
value depends on the MAC speed, and is only 8 bit, which makes
validating its value rather difficult - at 1G speeds, it's a
resolution of 1us so we can support up to 255us. At 100M speeds,
it's 10us, supporting up to 2.55ms. This makes it awkward to be able
to validate the set_eee() settings are sane for the hardware. Should
Marvell platforms instead implement a hrtimer above this? That sounds
a bit problematical to manage sanely.

-- 
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-11-26 13:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-26 12:51 [PATCH RFC net-next 00/23] net: phylink managed EEE support Russell King (Oracle)
2024-11-26 12:52 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 01/23] net: phy: ensure that genphy_c45_an_config_eee_aneg() sees new value of phydev->eee_cfg.eee_enabled Russell King
2024-11-26 12:52 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 02/23] net: phy: fix phy_ethtool_set_eee() incorrectly enabling LPI Russell King (Oracle)
2024-11-27 11:12   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-11-27 12:20     ` Oleksij Rempel
2024-11-28 14:11     ` Andrew Lunn
2024-11-26 12:52 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 03/23] net: phy: marvell: use phydev->eee_cfg.eee_enabled Russell King (Oracle)
2024-11-26 20:19   ` Heiner Kallweit
2024-11-26 12:52 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 04/23] net: phy: avoid genphy_c45_ethtool_get_eee() setting eee_enabled Russell King (Oracle)
2024-11-26 20:20   ` Heiner Kallweit
2024-11-26 12:52 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 05/23] net: phy: remove genphy_c45_eee_is_active()'s is_enabled arg Russell King (Oracle)
2024-11-26 20:24   ` Heiner Kallweit
2024-11-28 11:28   ` kernel test robot
2024-11-26 12:52 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 06/23] net: phy: update phy_ethtool_get_eee() documentation Russell King (Oracle)
2024-11-26 12:52 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 07/23] net: mdio: add definition for clock stop capable bit Russell King (Oracle)
2024-11-26 12:52 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 08/23] net: phy: add support for querying PHY clock stop capability Russell King (Oracle)
2024-11-26 12:52 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 09/23] net: phy: add configuration of rx clock stop mode Russell King (Oracle)
2024-11-28 12:29   ` kernel test robot
2024-11-26 12:53 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 10/23] net: phylink: add phylink_link_is_up() helper Russell King (Oracle)
2024-11-26 12:53 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 11/23] net: phylink: add EEE management Russell King (Oracle)
2024-11-26 12:53 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 12/23] net: mvneta: convert to phylink EEE implementation Russell King (Oracle)
2024-11-26 12:53 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 13/23] net: mvneta: only allow EEE to be used in "SGMII" modes Russell King (Oracle)
2024-11-26 12:53 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 14/23] net: mvpp2: add EEE implementation Russell King (Oracle)
2024-11-26 12:53 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 15/23] net: lan743x: use netdev in lan743x_phylink_mac_link_down() Russell King (Oracle)
2024-11-26 12:53 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 16/23] net: lan743x: convert to phylink managed EEE Russell King (Oracle)
2024-11-26 12:53 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 17/23] net: stmmac: move tx_lpi_timer tracking to phylib Russell King (Oracle)
2024-11-26 12:53 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 18/23] net: stmmac: make EEE depend on phy->enable_tx_lpi Russell King (Oracle)
2024-11-26 12:53 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 19/23] net: stmmac: remove redundant code from ethtool EEE ops Russell King (Oracle)
2024-11-26 12:53 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 20/23] net: stmmac: remove priv->tx_lpi_enabled Russell King (Oracle)
2024-11-26 12:53 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 21/23] net: stmmac: report EEE errors if EEE is supported Russell King (Oracle)
2024-11-26 12:54 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 22/23] net: stmmac: convert to use phy_eee_rx_clock_stop() Russell King (Oracle)
2024-11-26 12:54 ` [PATCH RFC net-next 23/23] net: stmmac: convert to phylink managed EEE support Russell King (Oracle)
2024-11-28 13:10   ` kernel test robot
2024-11-26 13:01 ` Russell King (Oracle) [this message]
2024-11-26 14:21   ` [PATCH RFC net-next 00/23] net: " Oleksij Rempel
2024-11-26 16:14     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-11-26 16:55 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-11-27 10:49 ` net: rtl8169: EEE seems to be ok (was: Re: [PATCH RFC net-next 00/23] net: phylink managed EEE support) Russell King (Oracle)
2024-11-27 22:15   ` net: rtl8169: EEE seems to be ok Heiner Kallweit
2024-11-27 11:20 ` net: ti: weirdness (was Re: [PATCH RFC net-next 00/23] net: phylink managed EEE support) Russell King (Oracle)
2024-11-28 14:21   ` Andrew Lunn
2024-11-27 12:15 ` net: sxgbe: using lpi_timer for Twake timer Oleksij Rempel

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