From: Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>
To: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
Cc: gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, rafael@kernel.org,
bhelgaas@google.com, ojeda@kernel.org, alex.gaynor@gmail.com,
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rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 15/16] rust: platform: add basic platform device / driver abstractions
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2024 16:17:21 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z0XmgXwwNikW6oJw@cassiopeiae> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAL_Jsq+TV486zw=hAWkFnNbPeA08mJh_4kVVJLSXiYkzWcOVDg@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 08:44:19AM -0600, Rob Herring wrote:
> > > > > The DT type and name fields are pretty much legacy, so I don't think the
> > > > > rust bindings need to worry about them until someone converts Sparc and
> > > > > PowerMac drivers to rust (i.e. never).
> > > > >
> > > > > I would guess the PCI cases might be questionable, too. Like DT, drivers
> > > > > may be accessing the table fields, but that's not best practice. All the
> > > > > match fields are stored in pci_dev, so why get them from the match
> > > > > table?
> > > >
> > > > Fair question, I'd like to forward it to Greg. IIRC, he explicitly requested to
> > > > make the corresponding struct pci_device_id available in probe() at Kangrejos.
>
> Making it available is not necessarily the same thing as passing it in
> via probe.
IIRC, that was exactly the request.
> I agree it may need to be available in probe(), but that
> can be an explicit call to get it.
Sure, I did exactly that for the platform abstraction, because there we may
probe through different ID tables.
A `struct pci_driver`'s probe function has the following signature [1] though:
`int (*probe)(struct pci_dev *dev, const struct pci_device_id *id)`
[1] https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.12/source/include/linux/pci.h#L950
>
> > > Which table gets passed in though? Is the IdInfo parameter generic and
> > > can be platform_device_id, of_device_id or acpi_device_id? Not sure if
> > > that's possible in rust or not.
> >
> > Not sure I can follow you here.
> >
> > The `IdInfo` parameter is of a type given by the driver for driver specific data
> > for a certain ID table entry.
> >
> > It's analogue to resolving `pci_device_id::driver_data` in C.
>
> As I said below, the PCI case is simpler than for platform devices.
> Platform devices have 3 possible match tables. The *_device_id type we
> end up with is determined at runtime (because matching is done at
> runtime), so IdInfo could be any of those 3 types.
`IdInfo` is *not* any of the three *_device_id types. It's the type of the
drivers private data associated with an entry of any of the three ID tables.
It is true that a driver, which registers multiple out of those three tables is
currently forced to have the same private data type for all of them.
I don't think this is a concern, is it? If so, it's easily resolvable by just
adding two more associated types, e.g. `PlatformIdInfo`, `DtIdInfo` and
`AcpiIdInfo`.
In this case we would indeed need accessor functions like `dt_match_data`,
`platform_match_data`, `acpi_match_data`, since we don't know the type at
compile time anymore.
I don't think that's necessary though.
> Is the exact type
> opaque to probe() and will that magically work in rust? Or do we need
> to pass in the 'driver_data' ptr (or reference) itself? The matched
> driver data is generally all the driver needs or cares about. We can
> probably assume that it is the same type no matter which match table
> is used whether it is platform_device_id::driver_data,
> of_device_id::data, or acpi_device_id::driver_data. Nothing in the C
> API guarantees that, but that's just best practice. Best practice in C
> looks like this:
>
> my_probe()
> {
> struct my_driver_data *data = device_get_match_data();
> ...
> }
>
> device_get_match_data() is just a wrapper to handle the 3 possible match tables.
>
> The decision for rust is whether we pass in "data" to probe or have an
> explicit call. There is a need to get to the *_device_id entry, but
> that's the exception. I would go as far as saying we may never need
> that in rust drivers.
>
> Rob
>
> > > PCI is the exception, not the rule here, in that it only matches with
> > > pci_device_id. At least I think that is the case currently, but it is
> > > entirely possible we may want to do ACPI/DT matching like every other
> > > bus. There are cases where PCI devices are described in DT.
> > >
> > > Rob
> > >
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-11-26 15:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-10-22 21:31 [PATCH v3 00/16] Device / Driver PCI / Platform Rust abstractions Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-22 21:31 ` [PATCH v3 01/16] rust: init: introduce `Opaque::try_ffi_init` Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-29 12:42 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-10-22 21:31 ` [PATCH v3 02/16] rust: introduce `InPlaceModule` Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-29 12:45 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-11-04 0:15 ` Greg KH
2024-11-04 17:36 ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-10-22 21:31 ` [PATCH v3 03/16] rust: pass module name to `Module::init` Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-29 12:55 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-10-22 21:31 ` [PATCH v3 04/16] rust: implement generic driver registration Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-22 21:31 ` [PATCH v3 05/16] rust: implement `IdArray`, `IdTable` and `RawDeviceId` Danilo Krummrich
2024-11-25 13:42 ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-10-22 21:31 ` [PATCH v3 06/16] rust: add rcu abstraction Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-29 13:59 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-10-22 21:31 ` [PATCH v3 07/16] rust: add `Revocable` type Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-29 13:26 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-12-03 9:21 ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-12-03 9:24 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-12-03 9:35 ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-12-03 10:58 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-10-22 21:31 ` [PATCH v3 08/16] rust: add `dev_*` print macros Danilo Krummrich
2024-11-04 0:24 ` Greg KH
2024-10-22 21:31 ` [PATCH v3 09/16] rust: add `io::Io` base type Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-28 15:43 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-10-29 9:20 ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-29 10:18 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-11-06 23:44 ` Daniel Almeida
2024-11-06 23:31 ` Daniel Almeida
2024-10-22 21:31 ` [PATCH v3 10/16] rust: add devres abstraction Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-31 14:03 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-11-27 12:21 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-11-27 13:19 ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-11-27 13:20 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-10-22 21:31 ` [PATCH v3 11/16] rust: pci: add basic PCI device / driver abstractions Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-27 22:42 ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-28 10:21 ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-11-26 14:06 ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-29 21:16 ` Christian Schrefl
2024-10-22 21:31 ` [PATCH v3 12/16] rust: pci: implement I/O mappable `pci::Bar` Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-22 21:31 ` [PATCH v3 13/16] samples: rust: add Rust PCI sample driver Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-23 15:57 ` Rob Herring
2024-10-28 13:22 ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-22 21:31 ` [PATCH v3 14/16] rust: of: add `of::DeviceId` abstraction Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-22 23:03 ` Rob Herring
2024-10-23 6:33 ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-27 4:38 ` Fabien Parent
2024-10-29 13:37 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-10-22 21:31 ` [PATCH v3 15/16] rust: platform: add basic platform device / driver abstractions Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-22 23:47 ` Rob Herring
2024-10-23 6:44 ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-23 14:23 ` Rob Herring
2024-10-28 10:15 ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-30 12:23 ` Rob Herring
2024-11-26 12:39 ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-11-26 14:44 ` Rob Herring
2024-11-26 15:17 ` Danilo Krummrich [this message]
2024-11-26 19:15 ` Rob Herring
2024-11-26 20:01 ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-24 9:11 ` Dirk Behme
2024-10-28 10:19 ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-29 7:20 ` Dirk Behme
2024-10-29 8:50 ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-29 9:19 ` Dirk Behme
2024-10-29 9:50 ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-29 9:55 ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-29 10:08 ` Dirk Behme
2024-10-30 13:18 ` Rob Herring
2024-10-27 4:32 ` Fabien Parent
2024-10-28 13:44 ` Dirk Behme
2024-10-29 13:16 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-10-30 15:50 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-10-30 18:07 ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-31 8:23 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-11-26 14:13 ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-12-04 19:25 ` Daniel Almeida
2024-12-04 19:30 ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-22 21:31 ` [PATCH v3 16/16] samples: rust: add Rust platform sample driver Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-23 0:04 ` Rob Herring
2024-10-23 6:59 ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-23 15:37 ` Rob Herring
2024-10-28 9:32 ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-25 10:32 ` Dirk Behme
2024-10-25 16:08 ` Rob Herring
2024-10-23 5:13 ` [PATCH v3 00/16] Device / Driver PCI / Platform Rust abstractions Greg KH
2024-10-23 7:28 ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-10-25 5:15 ` Dirk Behme
2024-11-16 14:32 ` Janne Grunau
2024-11-16 14:50 ` Greg KH
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