From: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: "Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
"Vince Weaver" <vincent.weaver@maine.edu>,
"Mikołaj Kołek" <kolek.mikolaj@gmail.com>,
"Alejandro Colomar" <alx@kernel.org>,
linux-man@vger.kernel.org, linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: perf_event_open.2: mmap ring buffer requirement for receiving overflow notifications
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2024 11:30:30 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z1Ct1nAdC7IPEpAN@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241204122801.GK35539@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On Wed, Dec 04, 2024 at 01:28:01PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 02, 2024 at 12:53:56PM -0800, Namhyung Kim wrote:
> > Hi Peter and Ingo,
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 05:13:45PM -0500, Vince Weaver wrote:
> > > On Sat, 23 Nov 2024, Mikołaj Kołek wrote:
> > >
> > > > findings. In the MMAP layout section of the page, you can find this
> > > > sentence:
> > > > Before Linux 2.6.39, there is a bug that means you must allocate
> > > > an mmap ring buffer when sampling even if you do not plan to
> > > > access it.
> > > > Unless I'm somehow misunderstanding it, this statement does not seem
> > > > to be well worded, or alternatively this bug does not seem to be
> > > > fixed.
> > >
> > > That text was probably written by me.
> > >
> > > I tried looking at the 2.6.39 code, my perf_tests, and also PAPI which was
> > > where the problem was probably noticed but I can't find a firm reference
> > > for how the issue was fixed.
> > >
> > > If I recall, the problem was if you were trying to create a sampling event
> > > without mmap (say you want to get a signal every 100,000 retired
> > > instructions, but you don't actually want any sample data). I think
> > > before 2.6.39 if you tried setting that up you'd get some sort of error
> > > (an EINVAL?) when trying to start(?) the event.
> > >
> > > It is possible this wasn't fixed. I tried to be pretty good
> > > about putting relevant git commits as comments in the manpage but there
> > > doesn't seem to be one for that part of the text. I'm guessing it was
> > > PeterZ doing the work on this so maybe he remembers.
> >
> > Do you remember what was the issue exactly on sampling events w/o mmap?
>
> I can barely remember last release :/ But looking at the code, I don't
> see a reason that wouldn't work today.
>
> Only the overflow handler should care about there being a buffer, and
> that just NOPs out if there isn't -- expensively, if this is a common
> thing, this could perhaps be optimized a little.
>
>
> ---
> diff --git a/kernel/events/core.c b/kernel/events/core.c
> index 4c6f6c286b2d..190b5c3cec10 100644
> --- a/kernel/events/core.c
> +++ b/kernel/events/core.c
> @@ -8117,6 +8117,8 @@ __perf_event_output(struct perf_event *event,
>
> /* protect the callchain buffers */
> rcu_read_lock();
> + if (unlikely(!event->rb))
> + goto exit;
We have a similar logic in __perf_output_begin() and it checks with the
parent event due to inheritance. But doing it here would save some
cycles for preparing samples to be dropped.
Thanks,
Namhyung
>
> perf_prepare_sample(data, event, regs);
> perf_prepare_header(&header, data, event, regs);
prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-12-04 19:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-11-23 20:49 perf_event_open.2: mmap ring buffer requirement for receiving overflow notifications Mikołaj Kołek
2024-11-23 21:29 ` Alejandro Colomar
2024-11-26 5:42 ` Namhyung Kim
2024-11-26 10:15 ` Alejandro Colomar
2024-11-26 22:13 ` Vince Weaver
2024-12-02 20:53 ` Namhyung Kim
2024-12-04 12:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-12-04 19:30 ` Namhyung Kim [this message]
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