From: "Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com>
To: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org,
Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>,
Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
Oleksandr Tyshchenko <oleksandr_tyshchenko@epam.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] xen/pci: do not register devices outside of PCI segment scope
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2025 11:18:57 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z4TokbA1s3OyNdjt@macbook.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250110222129.GA317771@bhelgaas>
On Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 04:21:29PM -0600, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 03:01:48PM +0100, Roger Pau Monne wrote:
> > The PCI segment value is limited to 16 bits, however there are buses like VMD
> > that fake being part of the PCI topology by adding segment with a number
> > outside the scope of the PCI firmware specification range (>= 0x10000). The
> > MCFG ACPI Table "PCI Segment Group Number" field is defined as having a 16 bit
> > width.
> >
> > Attempting to register or manage those devices with Xen would result in errors
> > at best, or overlaps with existing devices living on the truncated equivalent
> > segment values.
>
> The ACPI _SEG method (ACPI r6.5, sec 6.5.6) and the corresponding
> value in the MCFG table (PCI Firmware r3.3, sec 4.1.2) are clearly
> 16-bit values.
>
> But otherwise, the segment value is pretty much an arbitrary software
> value, and the kernel works fine with the larger domain values from
> vmd_find_free_domain(), so this isn't quite enough to explain what the
> issue with Xen is.
>
> Does Xen truncate the domain to 16 bits or use it to look up something
> in ACPI?
In the interface between Xen and Linux the segment field is 16 bit
width, so with the current interface is not possible to reference
devices that are past the 0xffff segment.
I also wonder whether Xen and Linux (or guest OSes in general) would
agree on how to reference such devices. AFAICT VMD segment numbers
are purely a software construct, but not something enforced by the
specification. Could for example FreeBSD assign a different segment
to VMD devices?
If so we would need some kind of specification about how VMD segment
values are assigned so that OSes have a coherent way of referencing
VMD devices without ambiguity.
Thanks, Roger.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-01-13 10:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-01-10 14:01 [PATCH 0/3] xen: fix usage of devices behind a VMD bridge Roger Pau Monne
2025-01-10 14:01 ` [PATCH 1/3] xen/pci: do not register devices outside of PCI segment scope Roger Pau Monne
2025-01-10 22:21 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-01-13 7:20 ` Jan Beulich
2025-01-13 10:18 ` Roger Pau Monné [this message]
2025-01-13 23:29 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-01-13 7:17 ` Jan Beulich
2025-01-13 10:13 ` Roger Pau Monné
2025-01-10 14:01 ` [PATCH 2/3] vmd: disable MSI remapping bypass under Xen Roger Pau Monne
2025-01-10 22:25 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-01-11 5:02 ` Jonathan Derrick
2025-01-13 10:07 ` Roger Pau Monné
2025-01-13 10:03 ` Roger Pau Monné
2025-01-13 15:11 ` Keith Busch
2025-01-13 16:45 ` Roger Pau Monné
2025-01-13 16:53 ` Keith Busch
2025-01-14 11:03 ` Roger Pau Monné
2025-01-12 2:57 ` kernel test robot
2025-01-10 14:01 ` [PATCH 3/3] pci/msi: remove pci_msi_ignore_mask Roger Pau Monne
2025-01-10 22:30 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-01-13 10:25 ` Roger Pau Monné
2025-01-13 23:32 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-01-11 11:08 ` kernel test robot
2025-01-11 12:24 ` kernel test robot
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