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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
Cc: Kun Hu <huk23@m.fudan.edu.cn>,
	Andrey Konovalov <andreyknvl@gmail.com>,
	Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
	jack@suse.cz, jlayton@redhat.com, tytso@mit.edu,
	adilger.kernel@dilger.ca, david@fromorbit.com,
	bfields@redhat.com, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk,
	christian.brauner@ubuntu.com, hch@lst.de,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Bug: INFO_ task hung in lock_two_nondirectories
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2025 16:19:01 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z4U89Wfyaz2fLbCt@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250113-herzhaft-desolat-e4d191b82bdf@brauner>

On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 03:38:57PM +0100, Christian Brauner wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 12, 2025 at 06:00:24PM +0800, Kun Hu wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > When using our customized fuzzer tool to fuzz the latest Linux kernel, the following crash (43s)
> > was triggered.
> 
> I think we need to come to an agreement at LSFMM or somewhere else that
> we will by default ingore but reports from non-syzbot fuzzers. Because
> we're all wasting time on them.

I think it needs to be broader than that to also include "AI generated
bug reports" (while not excluding AI-translated bug reports); see

https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2024/01/02/the-i-in-llm-stands-for-intelligence/

so really, any "automated bug report" system is out of bounds unless
previously arranged with the developers who it's supposed to be helping.
We need to write that down somewhere in Documentation/process/ so we
can point misguided people at it.

We should also talk about how some parts of the kernel are basically
unmaintained and unused, and that automated testing should be focused
on parts of the kernel that are actually used.  A report about being
able to crash a stock configuration of ext4 is more useful than being
able to crash an unusual configuration of ufs.

Distinguishing between warnings, BUG()s and actual crashes would also
be a useful thing to put in this document.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-13 16:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-12 10:00 Bug: INFO_ task hung in lock_two_nondirectories Kun Hu
2025-01-13 10:28 ` Jan Kara
2025-01-13 20:00   ` Kent Overstreet
2025-01-14  9:07     ` Dmitry Vyukov
2025-01-14  9:20       ` Kun Hu
2025-01-14 13:57       ` Theodore Ts'o
2025-01-14 21:21         ` Dave Chinner
2025-01-14 23:23           ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-01-15  0:38           ` Kent Overstreet
2025-01-14 13:58       ` Jan Kara
2025-01-14 15:39         ` James Bottomley
     [not found]       ` <D067012D-7E8D-4AD9-A0CA-66B397110989@m.fudan.edu.cn>
2025-01-14 15:09         ` Kent Overstreet
2025-01-16  9:37           ` Kun Hu
2025-01-16 14:12             ` Kent Overstreet
2025-01-24 12:22               ` Kun Hu
2025-01-24 14:15                 ` Kent Overstreet
2025-01-24 18:28                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2025-01-24 18:39                   ` Kent Overstreet
2025-01-14  9:27     ` Kun Hu
2025-01-14  2:54   ` Kun Hu
2025-01-13 14:38 ` Christian Brauner
2025-01-13 16:19   ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2025-01-13 18:08     ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-01-14  8:59       ` Dmitry Vyukov
2025-01-14 23:42         ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-01-14  9:15       ` Dmitry Vyukov
2025-01-14 23:43         ` Darrick J. Wong

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