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From: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
To: Peter Collingbourne <pcc@google.com>
Cc: "Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, kvmarm@lists.linux.dev,
	Suzuki K Poulose <Suzuki.Poulose@arm.com>,
	Steven Price <steven.price@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>, Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev>,
	Joey Gouly <joey.gouly@arm.com>,
	Zenghui Yu <yuzenghui@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 5/7] KVM: arm64: MTE: Use stage-2 NoTagAccess memory attribute if supported
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2025 13:15:12 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z4e04P1bQlFBDHo7@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMn1gO4huP4D_1mFdC8FsmvHkaQn+hC02ULcfBuS30VDM9=9gA@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 12:47:54PM -0800, Peter Collingbourne wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 11:09 AM Catalin Marinas
> <catalin.marinas@arm.com> wrote:
> > On Sat, Jan 11, 2025 at 06:49:55PM +0530, Aneesh Kumar K.V wrote:
> > > Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com> writes:
> > > > On Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 04:30:21PM +0530, Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm) wrote:
> > > >> Currently, the kernel won't start a guest if the MTE feature is enabled
> > >
> > > ...
> > >
> > > >> @@ -2152,7 +2162,8 @@ int kvm_arch_prepare_memory_region(struct kvm *kvm,
> > > >>            if (!vma)
> > > >>                    break;
> > > >>
> > > >> -          if (kvm_has_mte(kvm) && !kvm_vma_mte_allowed(vma)) {
> > > >> +          if (kvm_has_mte(kvm) &&
> > > >> +              !kvm_has_mte_perm(kvm) && !kvm_vma_mte_allowed(vma)) {
> > > >>                    ret = -EINVAL;
> > > >>                    break;
> > > >>            }
> > > >
> > > > I don't think we should change this, or at least not how it's done above
> > > > (Suzuki raised a related issue internally relaxing this for VM_PFNMAP).
> > > >
> > > > For standard memory slots, we want to reject them upfront rather than
> > > > deferring to the fault handler. An example here is file mmap() passed as
> > > > standard RAM to the VM. It's an unnecessary change in behaviour IMHO.
> > > > I'd only relax this for VM_PFNMAP mappings further down in this
> > > > function (and move the VM_PFNMAP check above; see Suzuki's internal
> > > > patch, unless he posted it publicly already).
> > >
> > > But we want to handle memslots backed by pagecache pages for virtio-shm
> > > here (virtiofs dax use case).
> >
> > Ah, I forgot about this use case. So with virtiofs DAX, does a host page
> > cache page (host VMM mmap()) get mapped directly into the guest as a
> > separate memory slot? In this case, the host vma would not have
> > VM_MTE_ALLOWED set.
> >
> > > With MTE_PERM, we can essentially skip the
> > > kvm_vma_mte_allowed(vma) check because we handle all types in the fault
> > > handler.
> >
> > This was pretty much the early behaviour when we added KVM support for
> > MTE, allow !VM_MTE_ALLOWED and trap them later. However, we disallowed
> > VM_SHARED because of some non-trivial race. Commit d89585fbb308 ("KVM:
> > arm64: unify the tests for VMAs in memslots when MTE is enabled")
> > changed this behaviour and the VM_MTE_ALLOWED check happens upfront. A
> > subsequent commit removed the VM_SHARED check.
> >
> > It's a minor ABI change but I'm trying to figure out why we needed this
> > upfront check rather than simply dropping the VM_SHARED check. Adding
> > Peter in case he remembers. I can't see any race if we simply skipped
> > this check altogether, irrespective of FEAT_MTE_PERM.
> 
> I don't see a problem with removing the upfront check. The reason I
> kept the check was IIRC just that there was already a check there and
> its logic needed to be adjusted for my VM_SHARED changes.

Prior to commit d89585fbb308, kvm_arch_prepare_memory_region() only
rejected a memory slot if VM_SHARED was set. This commit unified the
checking with user_mem_abort(), with slots being rejected if
(!VM_MTE_ALLOWED || VM_SHARED). A subsequent commit dropped the
VM_SHARED check, so we ended up with memory slots being rejected only if
!VM_MTE_ALLOWED (of course, if kvm_has_mte()). This wasn't the case
before the VM_SHARED relaxation.

So if you don't remember any strong reason for this change, I think we
should go back to the original behaviour of deferring the VM_MTE_ALLOWED
check to user_mem_abort() (and still permitting VM_SHARED).

-- 
Catalin

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-01-15 13:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-10 11:00 [PATCH v2 0/7] Add support for NoTagAccess memory attribute Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-01-10 11:00 ` [PATCH v2 1/7] arm64: Update the values to binary from hex Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-01-10 13:11   ` Catalin Marinas
2025-01-10 11:00 ` [PATCH v2 2/7] KVM: arm64: MTE: Update code comments Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-01-10 13:11   ` Catalin Marinas
2025-01-10 11:00 ` [PATCH v2 3/7] arm64: cpufeature: add Allocation Tag Access Permission (MTE_PERM) feature Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-01-10 13:15   ` Catalin Marinas
2025-01-10 11:00 ` [PATCH v2 4/7] KVM: arm64: MTE: Add KVM_CAP_ARM_MTE_PERM Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-01-10 11:00 ` [PATCH v2 5/7] KVM: arm64: MTE: Use stage-2 NoTagAccess memory attribute if supported Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-01-10 18:20   ` Catalin Marinas
2025-01-11 13:19     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-01-13 19:09       ` Catalin Marinas
2025-01-13 20:47         ` Peter Collingbourne
2025-01-14  9:55           ` Suzuki K Poulose
2025-01-15 13:15           ` Catalin Marinas [this message]
2025-01-28 10:31             ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-01-29 14:38               ` Catalin Marinas
2025-01-10 11:00 ` [PATCH v2 6/7] KVM: arm64: MTE: Nested guest support Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-01-10 11:00 ` [PATCH v2 7/7] KVM: arm64: Split some of the kvm_pgtable_prot bits into separate defines Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)

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