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From: Benjamin Marzinski <bmarzins@redhat.com>
To: Martin Wilck <mwilck@suse.com>
Cc: Christophe Varoqui <christophe.varoqui@opensvc.com>,
	dm-devel@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 04/14] multipathd: quickly re-sync if a map is inconsistent
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2025 13:48:20 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z4gC9P2SCbIhy2gV@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c640c8116e252d18fa89c4dfa6aa8ebb600e3c16.camel@suse.com>

On Tue, Jan 14, 2025 at 10:37:24PM +0100, Martin Wilck wrote:
> On Thu, 2024-12-19 at 16:57 -0500, Benjamin Marzinski wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 11, 2024 at 11:58:59PM +0100, Martin Wilck wrote:
> > > After reading the kernel device-mapper table,
> > > update_pathvec_from_dm()
> > > sets the mpp->need_reload flag if an inconsistent state was found
> > > (often a
> > > path with wrong WWID). We expect reload_and_sync_map() to fix this
> > > situation.
> > > However, schedule a quick resync in this case, to be double-check
> > > that the
> > > inconsistency has been fixed.
> > 
> > I'm not too sure about this. My biggest worry with handling
> > mpp->need_reload in the checkerloop is what happens if for some
> > reason
> > multipathd and the kernel keep disagreeing on something. You would
> > just
> > keep reloading the device. That seems unlikely, so I've o.k. with
> > handling it here, but if that does happen, this would make it much
> > worse.  Instead of reloading every path check, you would reload every
> > loop.
> > 
> > If you do detect an inconsistent state, and trigger a reload, and the
> > state is still inconsistent after that, I would argue that yet
> > another
> > reload is more likely to remain inconsistent than it is to fix the
> > problem. So I would rather not speed it up.
> > 
> 
> Please see my reply to 03/14.

Fine. Since I can see situations where a cascade of device changes would
make an inconsistency appear immediately after a reload and I can't
actually come up with a case (excluding bugs and ENOMEM) where nothing
changed, and we reloaded to fix and inconsistency, but it still isn't
fixed, we should probably handle the case that we know can actually
happen. Warning on inconsistent states should be good enough, and I
think we already do that in update_pathvec_from_dm().

-Ben

> 
> Martin


  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-15 18:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-11 22:58 [PATCH v2 00/14] multipathd: More map reload handling, and checkerloop work Martin Wilck
2024-12-11 22:58 ` [PATCH v2 01/14] multipathd: don't reload map in update_mpp_prio() Martin Wilck
2024-12-11 22:58 ` [PATCH v2 02/14] multipathd: remove dm_get_info() call from refresh_multipath() Martin Wilck
2024-12-11 22:58 ` [PATCH v2 03/14] multipathd: sync maps at end of checkerloop Martin Wilck
2024-12-19 21:50   ` Benjamin Marzinski
2025-01-17 19:04     ` Martin Wilck
2024-12-19 23:04   ` Benjamin Marzinski
2025-01-14 21:36     ` Martin Wilck
2025-01-15 16:45       ` Benjamin Marzinski
2024-12-11 22:58 ` [PATCH v2 04/14] multipathd: quickly re-sync if a map is inconsistent Martin Wilck
2024-12-19 21:57   ` Benjamin Marzinski
2025-01-14 21:37     ` Martin Wilck
2025-01-15 18:48       ` Benjamin Marzinski [this message]
2024-12-19 23:05   ` Benjamin Marzinski
2024-12-11 22:59 ` [PATCH v2 05/14] multipathd: move yielding for waiters to start of checkerloop Martin Wilck
2024-12-11 22:59 ` [PATCH v2 06/14] multipathd: add checker_finished() Martin Wilck
2024-12-11 22:59 ` [PATCH v2 07/14] multipathd: move "tick" calls into checker_finished() Martin Wilck
2024-12-11 22:59 ` [PATCH v2 08/14] multipathd: don't call reload_and_sync_map() from deferred_failback_tick() Martin Wilck
2024-12-19 22:04   ` Benjamin Marzinski
2025-01-14 21:40     ` Martin Wilck
2024-12-11 22:59 ` [PATCH v2 09/14] multipathd: move retry_count_tick() into existing mpvec loop Martin Wilck
2024-12-11 22:59 ` [PATCH v2 10/14] multipathd: don't call update_map() from missing_uev_wait_tick() Martin Wilck
2024-12-11 22:59 ` [PATCH v2 11/14] multipathd: don't call udpate_map() from ghost_delay_tick() Martin Wilck
2024-12-11 22:59 ` [PATCH v2 12/14] multipathd: only call reload_and_sync_map() when ghost delay expires Martin Wilck
2024-12-11 22:59 ` [PATCH v2 13/14] multipathd: remove non-existent maps in checkerloop Martin Wilck
2024-12-11 22:59 ` [PATCH v2 14/14] multipathd: remove mpvec_garbage_collector() Martin Wilck
2024-12-19 22:33 ` [PATCH v2 00/14] multipathd: More map reload handling, and checkerloop work Benjamin Marzinski

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