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From: "Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com>
To: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>
Cc: "xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org" <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>,
	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	Manuel Andreas <manuel.andreas@tum.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/5] x86/HVM: correct read/write split at page boundaries
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2025 13:23:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z5I0s83trDGp1x2V@macbook.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <41e6c4a5-d5c4-40a2-a8c6-f6b5bba70f8c@suse.com>

On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 10:49:36AM +0100, Jan Beulich wrote:
> On 22.01.2025 18:45, Roger Pau Monné wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 01, 2024 at 10:49:40AM +0200, Jan Beulich wrote:
> >> The MMIO cache is intended to have one entry used per independent memory
> >> access that an insn does. This, in particular, is supposed to be
> >> ignoring any page boundary crossing. Therefore when looking up a cache
> >> entry, the access'es starting (linear) address is relevant, not the one
> >> possibly advanced past a page boundary.
> >>
> >> In order for the same offset-into-buffer variable to be usable in
> >> hvmemul_phys_mmio_access() for both the caller's buffer and the cache
> >> entry's it is further necessary to have the un-adjusted caller buffer
> >> passed into there.
> >>
> >> Fixes: 2d527ba310dc ("x86/hvm: split all linear reads and writes at page boundary")
> >> Reported-by: Manuel Andreas <manuel.andreas@tum.de>
> >> Signed-off-by: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>
> >> ---
> >> This way problematic overlaps are only reduced (to ones starting at the
> >> same address), not eliminated: Assumptions in hvmemul_phys_mmio_access()
> >> go further - if a subsequent access is larger than an earlier one, but
> >> the splitting results in a chunk to cross the end "boundary" of the
> >> earlier access, an assertion will still trigger. Explicit memory
> >> accesses (ones encoded in an insn by explicit or implicit memory
> >> operands) match the assumption afaict (i.e. all those accesses are of
> >> uniform size, and hence they either fully overlap or are mapped to
> >> distinct cache entries).
> >>
> >> Insns accessing descriptor tables, otoh, don't fulfill these
> >> expectations: The selector read (if coming from memory) will always be
> >> smaller than the descriptor being read, and if both (insanely) start at
> >> the same linear address (in turn mapping MMIO), said assertion will kick
> >> in. (The same would be true for an insn trying to access itself as data,
> >> as long as certain size "restrictions" between insn and memory operand
> >> are met. Except that linear_read() disallows insn fetches from MMIO.) To
> >> deal with such, I expect we will need to further qualify (tag) cache
> >> entries, such that reads/writes won't use insn fetch entries, and
> >> implicit-supervisor-mode accesses won't use entries of ordinary
> >> accesses. (Page table accesses don't need considering here for now, as
> >> our page walking code demands page tables to be mappable, implying
> >> they're in guest RAM; such accesses also don't take the path here.)
> >> Thoughts anyone, before I get to making another patch?
> >>
> >> Considering the insn fetch aspect mentioned above I'm having trouble
> >> following why the cache has 3 entries. With insn fetches permitted,
> >> descriptor table accesses where the accessed bit needs setting may also
> >> fail because of that limited capacity of the cache, due to the way the
> >> accesses are done. The read and write (cmpxchg) are independent accesses
> >> from the cache's perspective, and hence we'd need another entry there.
> >> If, otoh, the 3 entries are there to account for precisely this (which
> >> seems unlikely with commit e101123463d2 ["x86/hvm: track large memory
> >> mapped accesses by buffer offset"] not saying anything at all), then we
> >> should be fine in this regard. If we were to permit insn fetches, which
> >> way to overcome this (possibly by allowing the write to re-use the
> >> earlier read's entry in this special situation) would remain to be
> >> determined.
> > 
> > I'm not that familiar with the emulator logic for memory accesses, but
> > it seems like we are adding more and more complexity and special
> > casing.  Maybe it's the only way to go forward, but I wonder if there
> > could be some other way to solve this.  However, I don't think I
> > will have time to look into it, and hence I'm not going to oppose to
> > your proposal.
> 
> I'll see what I can do; it's been quite a while, so I'll first need to
> swap context back in.
> 
> > Are there however some tests, possibly XTF, that we could use to
> > ensure the behavior of accesses is as we expect?
> 
> Manuel's report included an XTF test, which I expect will become a part
> of XTF once this fix went in. I fear though that there is an issue
> Andrew has been pointing out, which may prevent this from happening
> right away (even if with osstest having disappeared that's now only a
> latent issue, until gitlab CI would start exercising XTF): With the
> issue unfixed on older trees (i.e. those remaining after this series
> was backported as appropriate), the new test would fail there.

All this seems (to my possibly untrained eye in the emulator) quite
fragile, so I would feel more comfortable knowing we have some way to
test functionality here don't regress.

> >> @@ -1030,7 +1040,11 @@ static struct hvm_mmio_cache *hvmemul_fi
> >>              return cache;
> >>      }
> >>  
> >> -    if ( !create )
> >> +    /*
> >> +     * Bail if a new entry shouldn't be allocated, utilizing that ->space has
> >                                                       ^rely on ->space having ...
> > Would be easier to read IMO.
> 
> Changed; I'm not overly fussed, yet at the same time I also don't really
> agree with your comment.
> 
> >> @@ -1064,12 +1079,14 @@ static void latch_linear_to_phys(struct
> >>  
> >>  static int hvmemul_linear_mmio_access(
> >>      unsigned long gla, unsigned int size, uint8_t dir, void *buffer,
> >> -    uint32_t pfec, struct hvm_emulate_ctxt *hvmemul_ctxt, bool known_gpfn)
> >> +    uint32_t pfec, struct hvm_emulate_ctxt *hvmemul_ctxt,
> >> +    unsigned long start, bool known_gpfn)
> > 
> > I think start is a bit ambiguous, start_gla might be clearer (same
> > below for the start parameter).
> 
> Fine with me - changed for all three hvmemul_linear_mmio_*(). It wasn't
> clear to me whether you also meant the local variables in
> linear_{read,write}(); since you said "parameter" I assumed you didn't.

Indeed, I think those are fine as they are local variables.

> If you did, I fear I'd be less happy to make the change there too, for
> "addr" then preferably also wanting to change to "gla". Yet that would
> cause undue extra churn.
> 
> >> @@ -1182,8 +1202,17 @@ static int linear_read(unsigned long add
> >>       * an access that was previously handled as MMIO. Thus it is imperative that
> >>       * we handle this access in the same way to guarantee completion and hence
> >>       * clean up any interim state.
> >> +     *
> >> +     * Care must be taken, however, to correctly deal with crossing RAM/MMIO or
> >> +     * MMIO/RAM boundaries. While we want to use a single cache entry (tagged
> >> +     * by the starting linear address), we need to continue issuing (i.e. also
> >> +     * upon replay) the RAM access for anything that's ahead of or past MMIO,
> >> +     * i.e. in RAM.
> >>       */
> >> -    if ( !hvmemul_find_mmio_cache(hvio, addr, IOREQ_READ, false) )
> >> +    cache = hvmemul_find_mmio_cache(hvio, start, IOREQ_READ, ~0);
> >> +    if ( !cache ||
> >> +         addr + bytes <= start + cache->skip ||
> >> +         addr >= start + cache->size )
> > 
> > Seeing as this bound checks is also used below, could it be a macro or
> > inline function?
> > 
> > is_cached() or similar?
> 
> Hmm. Yes, it's twice the same expression, yet that helper would require
> four parameters. That's a little too much for my taste; I'd prefer to
> keep things as they are. After all there are far more redundancies between
> the two functions.

Oh, indeed that would be 4 parameters.  Anyway, I guess it's fine
as-is then.

Thanks, Roger.


  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-23 12:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-01  8:47 [PATCH v2 0/5] x86/HVM: emulation (MMIO) improvements Jan Beulich
2024-10-01  8:48 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] x86/HVM: correct MMIO emulation cache bounds check Jan Beulich
2025-01-22 10:44   ` Roger Pau Monné
2024-10-01  8:49 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] x86/HVM: allocate emulation cache entries dynamically Jan Beulich
2025-01-22 12:00   ` Roger Pau Monné
2025-01-22 13:39     ` Jan Beulich
2025-01-22 17:47       ` Roger Pau Monné
2024-10-01  8:49 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] x86/HVM: correct read/write split at page boundaries Jan Beulich
2025-01-22 17:45   ` Roger Pau Monné
2025-01-23  9:49     ` Jan Beulich
2025-01-23 12:23       ` Roger Pau Monné [this message]
2024-10-01  8:50 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] x86/HVM: slightly improve CMPXCHG16B emulation Jan Beulich
2024-10-01  8:50 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] x86/HVM: drop redundant access splitting Jan Beulich
2025-01-23  9:01   ` Roger Pau Monné
2025-01-23  9:20     ` Jan Beulich

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