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From: Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>
To: Byungchul Park <byungchul@sk.com>
Cc: "Harry (Hyeonggon) Yoo" <42.hyeyoo@gmail.com>,
	Honggyu Kim <honggyu.kim@sk.com>,
	kernel_team@skhynix.com, Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC] Restricting or migrating unmovable kernel allocations from slow tier
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2025 10:47:58 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z6ofrm1u7itAP32b@gourry-fedora-PF4VCD3F> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250210071741.GB39454@system.software.com>

On Mon, Feb 10, 2025 at 04:17:41PM +0900, Byungchul Park wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2025 at 01:00:02AM -0500, Gregory Price wrote:
> > 
> >    You can probably actually (maybe?) collect data on this today - but
> >    you still have to contend with #2 and #3.
> 
> Ah.  You seem to mean those works should be serialized.  Right?  If it
> should be for some reason, then it could be sensible.
> 

I'm suggesting that there isn't a strong reason (yet) to consider such a
complicated change.  As Willy has said, it's a fairly fundamental change
for a single-reason (CXL), which does not bode well for its acceptance.

Honestly trying to save you some frustration. It would behoove you to
find stronger reasons (w/ data) or consider different solutions. Right
now there are stronger, simplers solutions to the ZONE_NORMAL capacity
issue (struct page resize, huge pages) for possible capacities.

I also think someone should actively ask whether `struct page` can be
hosted on remote memory without performance loss.  I may look into this.

~Gregory

  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-10 15:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-01 13:29 [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC] Restricting or migrating unmovable kernel allocations from slow tier Hyeonggon Yoo
2025-02-01 14:04 ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-02-01 15:13   ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2025-02-01 16:30     ` Gregory Price
2025-02-01 18:48       ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-02-03 22:09       ` Dan Williams
2025-02-07  7:20   ` Byungchul Park
2025-02-07  8:57     ` Gregory Price
2025-02-07  9:27       ` Gregory Price
2025-02-07  9:34       ` Honggyu Kim
2025-02-07  9:54         ` Gregory Price
2025-02-07 10:49           ` Byungchul Park
2025-02-10  2:33           ` Harry (Hyeonggon) Yoo
2025-02-10  3:19             ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-02-10  6:00             ` Gregory Price
2025-02-10  7:17               ` Byungchul Park
2025-02-10 15:47                 ` Gregory Price [this message]
2025-02-10 15:55                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-02-10 16:06                     ` Gregory Price
2025-02-11  1:53                   ` Byungchul Park
2025-02-21  1:52                   ` Harry Yoo
2025-02-25  4:54                     ` [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC] Gathering ideas to reduce ZONE_NORMAL cost Byungchul Park
2025-02-25  5:06                   ` [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC] Restricting or migrating unmovable kernel allocations from slow tier Byungchul Park
2025-03-03 15:55                     ` Gregory Price
2025-02-07 10:14       ` Byungchul Park
2025-02-10  7:02       ` Byungchul Park
2025-02-04  9:59 ` David Hildenbrand

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