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From: "Marek Marczykowski-Górecki" <marmarek@invisiblethingslab.com>
To: "Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com>
Cc: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>,
	Luca Fancellu <Luca.Fancellu@arm.com>,
	Bertrand Marquis <Bertrand.Marquis@arm.com>,
	Oleksandr Andrushchenko <andr2000@gmail.com>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org" <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>,
	Artem Mygaiev <Artem_Mygaiev@epam.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
	Julien Grall <julien@xen.org>,
	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	Anthony PERARD <anthony.perard@vates.tech>,
	Michal Orzel <michal.orzel@amd.com>
Subject: Re: Coding Style Review and Automation
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2025 19:54:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z6uc_eN-LLmgOmxJ@mail-itl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z6tZUKiqYARWuk8N@macbook.local>

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On Tue, Feb 11, 2025 at 03:06:08PM +0100, Roger Pau Monné wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 11, 2025 at 11:19:23AM +0100, Jan Beulich wrote:
> > On 11.02.2025 10:10, Luca Fancellu wrote:
> > >>> 3) The size of the patch after applying clang-format is huge. Really. Something
> > >>> like 9 MB. Even if everyone agrees that the approach is good and we can proceed
> > >>> with it, it is highly unlikely anyone will be able to review it. Considering
> > >>> that new patches are being added to the upstream during such a review, it may
> > >>> also lead to new code style violations or require a new review of that huge
> > >>> patch.
> > >>
> > >> I think this approach is difficult.  It would likely introduce a lot
> > >> of noise when using `git blame` (I know, it's just one extra jump,
> > >> but...), plus would likely break every patch that we currently have
> > >> in-flight.
> > > 
> > > I think we already discussed this in the past and having some churn was accepted,
> > > also about breaking existing patches, every change merged has the potential to do
> > > that, this one is more likely but it’s the game I guess?
> > 
> > That's easy to say if you have just a few patches in flight, yet I'm worried
> > about this when considering the hundreds of mine that are awaiting review.
> 
> There are also downstreams (including distros) with varying length of
> patch queues on top of Xen.  Arguably they have to rebase the queue
> every time they update, but a wide change in coding style will likely
> be fairly disruptive to them.
> 
> Don't take this as a reason to reject clang-format.  As mentioned
> elsewhere I think the format supported by clang-format would need to
> be fairly similar to the current Xen one (up to the point that chunks
> of code using the new and the old style could live together).  Then we
> would enforce it only for newly added chunks of code initially IMO.

While clang-format surely will force some changes (the earlier 9MB patch
is a data point here...), I generally expect it should match fairly
close to the current code style, and so the rebase shouldn't be _that_
painful. In some cases git likely will handle large part of the work
already.

It surely is a cost of introducing such a change, but IMO it's a cost
worth paying.

-- 
Best Regards,
Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
Invisible Things Lab

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  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-11 18:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-10 21:16 Coding Style Review and Automation Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2025-02-11  1:37 ` Stefano Stabellini
2025-02-11  9:01 ` Roger Pau Monné
2025-02-11  9:10   ` Luca Fancellu
2025-02-11  9:31     ` Roger Pau Monné
2025-02-11  9:49       ` Luca Fancellu
2025-02-11 10:26         ` Roger Pau Monné
2025-02-11 10:30           ` Jan Beulich
2025-02-11 11:03       ` Anthony PERARD
2025-02-11 10:19     ` Jan Beulich
2025-02-11 14:06       ` Roger Pau Monné
2025-02-11 18:54         ` Marek Marczykowski-Górecki [this message]
2025-02-12 11:54           ` Edwin Torok
2025-02-11 10:14   ` Jan Beulich
2025-02-11 10:35     ` Roger Pau Monné
2025-02-11 10:28 ` Jan Beulich
2025-02-11 22:33 ` Stefano Stabellini
2025-02-12  9:14   ` Roger Pau Monné
2025-02-12 11:14     ` Grygorii Strashko
2025-02-12 11:31       ` Roger Pau Monné
2025-02-13  6:43       ` Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2025-02-12 20:03   ` Oleksandr Andrushchenko

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